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Old 04-18-2008, 04:43 AM   #801 (link to here)
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Re: MAN THE HARPOONS AGAIN!!! xenutv1 channel on youtube suspended!!!

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I have created an account to collect Anonymous, XenuTV and ToryMAgoo videos into my favorites section.

If anyone can find videos for me to add to the favorites section, let me know.

Here is my new channel
YouTube - anonymousxenutv's Channel
I think that's a great idea and effort on your part. BUT, wouldn't it be a better idea for Enturbulation to have its own Youtube account, doing exactly the same thing. Then it would be on the front page of this site, and linked from every page.

Thinking of it now seems kinda obvious, come on mods, get the fuck on it.
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Old 04-18-2008, 04:43 AM   #802 (link to here)
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Re: MAN THE HARPOONS AGAIN!!! xenutv1 channel on youtube suspended!!!

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If you email them and you don't have an account with them, they can just disregard your email since you can't know anything about it, you aren't a member.

I know people who don't have a utube account but their voice, on the matter of improper censorship, will be heard...

you can take Stock in that.
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Old 04-18-2008, 04:43 AM   #803 (link to here)
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Scientology, you just pissed off the internet AGAIN.

Thank you for raising our numbers to over 9000.
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Old 04-18-2008, 04:43 AM   #804 (link to here)
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I'm firmly in the "don't boycott" camp- for good or for ill, they're a major outlet, and we ned our shit getting major coverage.
^ ^ THIS ^ ^

the answer to suppression of free speech on youtube -probably by misuse of an automated flagging system- is not giving it up without a fight.
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Old 04-18-2008, 04:45 AM   #805 (link to here)
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Dear Sirs and Madams;

I writing this because as of yesterday, Mark Bunker's YouTube account has been suspended, and as of this morning still is. There are no Terms of Service Violations in any of his videos, and am curious as to why it was suspended.

As Google and YouTube are very large players on the internet, I was under the impression that your company was for free speech, not abridged. Your company fought against the use of records in legal proceedings in China previously, and would like to know: Are you being controlled by the Religous Technology Center, Inc. AKA Church of Scientology, Inc.? If so, we as members and users of your site would like know. If so, we can take our searches to Microsoft or to Yahoo!. We would be more than happy to do so.

When I say we, I am meaning over 15,000 registered members of enturbulation.org. And do not think none of us are IT Professionals, whose families and colleagues and customers rely on us for opinion of what search engines to utilize. What email services to use (Yahoo! currently offers unlimited email space). And a host of your other services. We can easily point people to the alternatives out there.

Please, we request an answer, and reinstatement of the YouTube account XenuTV1. And do not think that sitting on your laurels would be acceptable. We vote with our feet, and do not hesitate to use that vote, as we did in February, March, and in April.

We do not forget. We do not forgive. We are many.

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Old 04-18-2008, 04:47 AM   #806 (link to here)
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We absolutely should pressure them on point (1), though they have every right to take advertising money from anyone they choose to. That ad money should *not* encourage them to engage in censorship pratices, not without serious blowback from users. And we should and WILL take them to task on this.

As for private information, it would be a HUGE fucking PR scandal if Google was implicated in the leaking of private data, particularly to as sinister a group as the CoS. They will NOT allow that to happen. It would absolutely DESTROY their company. I can see some low-level CEO thinking it's a smart business decision to cancel access to some little newsgroup and a couple youtube accounts for a day or so in order to get more ad money from a very wealthy client. I *can't* see ANY CEO deciding it's in the company's best interest to sell private data about users. Ever.
Nah, true, I agree with that. They probably have strict internal policies on user info, no question.

But you say the CoS ads is a purely capitalistic/profit-related choice. Isn't taking money from scientology similarly self-destructive? Remember what YouTube and Google's main demographic is. Yep, me and you. Most of their users probably think scientology is worse than pornography.

It's a horrible business decision, and combined with these account issues it is baaaad thinking.
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Old 04-18-2008, 04:48 AM   #807 (link to here)
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YouTube is THE video site the entire world knows about and visits. We will not be kicked out of it, not by a shitty cult.
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Old 04-18-2008, 04:48 AM   #808 (link to here)
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Re: MAN THE HARPOONS AGAIN!!! xenutv1 channel on youtube suspended!!!

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My vote? Keep our stuff there, keep flooding them.
Your quote is enzo, who i now strongly suspect of being an OSA plant.
Look at his posts. He joined today. Only ten posts. Nine in this thread, one in a related one. All the posts in this thread recommend leaving google and youtube, nothing else.
Don't take my word for it, I don't like witch hunts, but look at the post history yourself.
http://forums.enturbulation.org/sear...earchid=111509

We need to stop this 'leave google' thing before it gets out of hand.
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Old 04-18-2008, 04:49 AM   #809 (link to here)
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There are times where an obviously rotten thing needs to be trashed.

In the last week Tory has had her account suspended twice with NO EXPLANATION, and WBM has OSLO been suspended.
No explanations have been gibbons!

Then the Google news thingie mysteriously broke.

One does not have to be a genius to work out that persons other than Clams had to have been involved, does one?

Walk away from it while you still can!
i think thats a great argumentation for walking away. the logical path would indeed be to panic. i think ill just do that, you convinced me. :)
no, seriously, OSA has reason to worry, noone else.
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Old 04-18-2008, 04:49 AM   #810 (link to here)
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do NOT leave Youtube/google

we're expelling the Co$ from the interbutts NOT the other way around
Again: I would not advice to leave Youtube or Google, but I would advice you to keep your Chanology subscriptions on a YouTube account that doesn't have your "public" email in it.

I don't recommend you to use a password you use other places either.
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Old 04-18-2008, 04:49 AM   #811 (link to here)
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Don't delete your YT accounts guise. Bad idea is bad.

At the time of this reply ToryMagoo69 account status: suspended
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Old 04-18-2008, 04:49 AM   #812 (link to here)
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Re: MAN THE HARPOONS AGAIN!!! xenutv1 channel on youtube suspended!!!

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I'm firmly in the "don't boycott" camp- for good or for ill, they're a major outlet, and we ned our shit getting major coverage. It's all well and good rehosting elsewhere, but if nobody's watching, then it's ultimately pointless.
Agreed, no boycott...

Anonymous does not withdraw, anonymous zerg rushes.

Hive-mind swarms and does not retreat.

Cats go where they will and howl in every alley they can find.
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Old 04-18-2008, 04:52 AM   #813 (link to here)
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Re: MAN THE HARPOONS AGAIN!!! xenutv1 channel on youtube suspended!!!

Cry as much about youtube as you want, it's our greatest tool. A high traffic media site is perfect to get our message across. Don't delete youtube account, fight with it.

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Anonymous does not withdraw, anonymous zerg rushes.
Also, this.
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Old 04-18-2008, 04:52 AM   #814 (link to here)
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DO NOT LEAVE YOUTUBE, DO NOT LEAVE GOOGLE

The idea was encouraged by an account now thought to be an OSA plant, STAY ON YOUTUBE and KEEP FIGHTING.
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Old 04-18-2008, 04:56 AM   #815 (link to here)
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Re: MAN THE HARPOONS AGAIN!!! xenutv1 channel on youtube suspended!!!

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The real question in my mind is what will replace Google and YT.

We know, or at least STRONGLY suspect, the aforementioned are compromised, so what do we do?

What are the feasible alternatives?
the first would be you STFU
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Old 04-18-2008, 04:57 AM   #816 (link to here)
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Re: MAN THE HARPOONS AGAIN!!! xenutv1 channel on youtube suspended!!!

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YouTube is THE video site the entire world knows about and visits. We will not be kicked out of it, not by a shitty cult.
^^ THIS ^^

So bloody important we do not cave in with petty 'walk-outs'. I'd rather bomb them with intelligent tl;dr emails, phone them up, and generally pressure them into doing something about this. Walking away does nothing to sway the big corporation.

Seriously people. Keep your accounts. Make anonymous ones for correspondence... we will claim Google/Youtube back, all you have to do is stay put and pressure them.
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