Viacom emails WBM and will not retract

Who cares? Then tell WBM to register a new shell email and create xenutv2. End of line.

Who cares about the old accounts. WBM should learn from Anon on this.

Move to other video sharing sites. That is all i can suggest for WBM. Those of us still on youtube, spread the videos far across the span of the internet.

It's up to us now.

somebody fucking give me a target, this shit is ridiculous.

im thinking the target should be youtube. viacom are being douches about the whole thing, but the ultimate responsibility lies with youtube. they have heard our wishes in full and they have decided to ban a good person who made one mistake and learned his lesson. the upper echelon of youtube is fully aware of this entire situation and they have made their decision.

when the target is settled on, i encourage all anon to absolutely obliterate these motherfuckers and teach them a lesson about fucking with free speech on the internet. start warming up the internet hate machine. my shit is locked and loaded.

Originally Posted by AnonArbor

I'd like to suggest that we just walk away from Youtube for a bit, a few days, a week whatever. Let both sides calm down, stop the raiding them. As other posters have said, all we're doing is making Youtube think it is under attack and forcing them to present a united front.

Let Bunker and a few selected people talk to Youtube about the account, don't do the massive raid. Bunker has a very good cause were he got screwed over unfairly, if we can present that the top people hopefully his account can be restored minus the one video.

If in a week or whatever Youtube is still being a bunch of pricks we can make a new account that just happens to have all of Bunker's videos on it, minus the DMCA content of course. Just make it nice and quietly, no fanfare or anything. It can belong to someone else in theory with Bunker just happening to know the login info.

If Youtube torches that second account I'd vote we unleash the wrath of the internet on them, if not we move on.

Really what we need to focus on is who is the Scilon / Scilon lover in the Youtube | Google operation that pulled this off in the first place and neutralize them to protect all future videos.

No, I agree with others that doing that is "ceding ground".

Even if Bunker has been screwed to the wall in a blatant move to surpress him and shut him up, the presence of others who support him (and I DON'T just mean Anonymous) on YT is important.

What needs to be done, should be more creative.

Instead of 5000 accounts duplicating "bring back XENU TV" videos, what would be far more effective in terms of getting the public (and consequently YouTube) to notice would be ONE account (Tory's?) with a video on the subject which Anonymous makes a CONSTANT effort to keep in the MOST VIEWED, MOST DISCUSSED and BEST RATED lists EVERY DAY.

Forever.

Knock "HotForWords" and "SXEPhil" and those other boneheads down a notch if you have to. If people had to have "XenuTV banned unfairly" in their faces every single day, right at the top of anywhere they looked, they'd start to question things.

Just so you all know, Shari Redstone, Vice Chairman and probable hier to Viacom, counts among her friends known scilon and Australia's riches man James Packer. Besides opening up business oppotunities she also attended his fathers funeral, sitting along side Tomkat. Packer still has quarter shares in TV station channel 9 (his father owned it), one of the stations which ran the JB teaser. Tinfiol hat????

First post i know but i just thought you should know. I go to work now.

Nothing would make the scilons happier than to see all of anonymous move away from YouTube.

LETS NOT make that happen! Stay on YouTube, show the scifags taking out even WBM himself will not move us. We are legion. Expect us.

Originally Posted by WileyCoyote

What needs to be done, should be more creative.

Instead of 5000 accounts duplicating "bring back XENU TV" videos, what would be far more effective in terms of getting the public (and consequently YouTube) to notice would be ONE account (Tory's?) with a video on the subject which Anonymous makes a CONSTANT effort to keep in the MOST VIEWED, MOST DISCUSSED and BEST RATED lists EVERY DAY.

I agree with this. One video with 500,000 views is going to be more visible than 4 videos with ~125,000 views when you're trying to keep something at the top, and more visibility means more people finding out what all this is about. Dissemination!

Originally Posted by Lt. Wog, 4th Marcab Fleet

when the target is settled on, i encourage all anon to absolutely obliterate these motherfuckers and teach them a lesson about fucking with free speech on the internet. start warming up the internet hate machine. my shit is locked and loaded.

We need to keep it absolutely 100% legal, especially since scilons are watching this situation so closely. A DDoS on Youtube or anything similar would be a major footbullet on our part.

This is ridiculous. I had a video removed recently and YouTube sent me an e-mail about it and deleted the video, then said if I did it too many times they'd ban me. Fair enough.

Except I still have my account up and active. So what's the difference here?

Right... now, I just want to know the best way to deal with this.

I am fucking annoyed by this, but I still want to deal with this in the best way as possible. Should I concentrate on emailing Youtube every so often, or what? Perhaps send word occasionally to a media outlet?

I really hate feeling helpless in this issue, especially when I feel this whole debacle has to change.

Jebus, Give up on YOUTUBE for now.

Target Scilon Advertising. Make them pay.

Obvious newfag here, but the best course of action, IMHO, is to blitz YouTube with WBM uploads. Post his vids everywhere. Every time he posts a new vid (wherever he chooses to do so) upload it on as many accounts as you can. They can't censor it if we post it all over - which is the same problem they've had with copyrighted material forever. WBM even said it's ok for us to upload his vids.

The message is more important than punishing YouTube. We can punish them after we're done with the Scilons.

Originally Posted by BlueDreamer

Right... now, I just want to know the best way to deal with this.

I am fucking annoyed by this, but I still want to deal with this in the best way as possible. Should I concentrate on emailing Youtube every so often, or what? Perhaps send word occasionally to a media outlet?

I really hate feeling helpless in this issue, especially when I feel this whole debacle has to change.

It's not yours to fucking deal with.

Seriously this would be simple if Bunkers first account didn't get fucked. It did for some unknown reason youtube is actually following their guidelines (which they always ignore) could it be that they have a known offender and decided to make him an example? Maybe, could it be the CoS fucked him? Maybe.

End of the day, for him to get his account back he's going to need to gurgle alot of youtube cock. Since he wants to have his name attached to it that's what he's going to have to do. Find a way for youtube to reverse it's policies.

What does Anon do? Laugh really. It's pretty fucking funny enturb spent 2 days raiding youtube for no good reason.

This is why NYPA was invented. For this exact reason. You guys want to email youtube about their policies feel free but then I would say you need to stay on target because that has nothing to do with the CoS.

This email should end the saga that is the great XenuTV raids of 2008.

this tos copyrights song and dance is all very amusing but the fact is youtube is trying to cover its ass for censoring mark bunker and the beghe guy and now viacom is helping them to cover their ass. that's the entire story. the rest is a cover story. youtube has decided its not in the business of deciding what a religion is and not the tos at all but the community guidelines referenced in the tos allowed osa to ban mark bunker for religious hate speech. ok, youtube, don't define religion, and take it out of the community guidelines crap you selectively enforce. this has been a major distraction and i dont like how wbm played it, all politic and media savvy to the point of absolute bullshit. just get mad next time mark. real is better than fake. in b4 corporate merger.

Hai anons... We do have a bit of a crossroads here. I guess I can help by suggesting different plans of attack. Ive been hearing 3 different ideas that have gone on... Here is my take on what we should do next...

1. Just get the hell out of youtube, go elsewhere and cancel accounts, practically uproot ourselves. We basically just don't use it anymore and/or uproot all things anon, and try to use another media outlet.
PRO'S: Its a basic solution, and its easy. It will also work to be a boycott of sorts, and it might make yt suffer.
FAIL'S: First and most importantly, its not something to fight against, its something we are fighting for, a battleground of sorts. Besides, anon's have never been about inactivity, we are more or less about attacking with full force to get the job done. The boycott won't do much of anything, considering that the sponsors won't care either way.

2. Attack with full force against youtube and/or its partnerships. Of course, this means taking numbers and names, and continue what we have done. Man the harpoons, and kick more ass.
PRO's: Its practical, it has worked in the past, why not now? Besides, we have enough people and willpower. We really don't have anything to lose, and thats what we have always done.
FAIL'S: There is a suspicion that there is scio's hand in all this, although to the best of my knowlege this isn't confirmed, its hard to refute the overwhelming evidence. Basically, we can waste our time better spent on other things.

3. Stay our ground, and rest. A few of us decide as a whole how we can better come at this as a group, while the others work at other operations. Mark and others can handle it until /b/lackup is needed. We can also decide how to better get to the situation, or more intel.
PRO'S: We won't get sick of the situation, and there won't be as much confusion, but at the same time, we aren't giving up anything. The situation can also solve itself somehow, and we are also in the position to do what is needed. Also, we can make some moar media against youtube, therefore bringing more anger against yt.
FAIL'S: We won't be keeping up the pressure by doing this, which might be the solution to the problem. And this might prolong the problem at hand, when we could simply just not do anything and rely on other media means.

My personal opinion, option 1 is the worst, youtube is the means to the masses, and we are trying to get in contact with those people. This is counterproductive. Option 2 is a great idea, but we dont' exactly know what we are getting into. Option three is the best idea in my opinion, because we can get more information and get the word out about this. AGAIN, these are only suggestions and ideas that I see that are commonly around these forums, but I think that is the best option.

Originally Posted by Skeptic1337

This email should end the saga that is the great XenuTV raids of 2008.

THIS. less than a week and there are 100,000 views and probably close to 2,000 fucking posts over WHAT? Get back to work that isn't titling at google's windmill.

Originally Posted by Nocturnal

Obvious newfag here, but the best course of action, IMHO, is to blitz YouTube with WBM uploads. Post his vids everywhere. Every time he posts a new vid (wherever he chooses to do so) upload it on as many accounts as you can. They can't censor it if we post it all over - which is the same problem they've had with copyrighted material forever. WBM even said it's ok for us to upload his vids.

The message is more important than punishing YouTube. We can punish them after we're done with the Scilons.

But that's not realistically how people "get" to see things on YouTube. You could have the SAME video posted 1000 times, and if they have 200 views each (and maybe even by the same 200 people?), what have you done? YouTube will hardly notice, and the actual public won't at all.

The only way to get noticed, to have an impact, is to have ONE video, with hundred of thousands of hits. And the more of that happens every single day, like clockwork (even if you aren't watching all the way though) the more OTHER people who aren't Anonymous see it, right on top of the Most Viewed list where they can't miss it, and the less YouTube can just ignore the situation.

So,

The video Bunker posted on Tory's channel, or some suitably edited replacement with additional info from Anonymous, should be pushed in YT's face with MASSIVE views every single day.

Any and all NEW Bunker material should indeed be re-posted with multiple accounts by various people on YT, but one master account should be designated and as many hits as possible should be driven to the copy posted from that account. So these videos ALSO rise high on the list and drive YT nuts, and give them continuing bad press if there's an edited rider at the beginning or end of each of these continuing to complain about how Xenu TV was treated.

People have to SEE your protest. Or its probably pretty useless.

Originally Posted by downstat

Can we finally move on now?
- Viacom (dead end)
- BayTSP (duh, they are liek the post office)

-YouTube <-----it's up to them now.

Can we please get back to work, thousands of posts on this, and over 90,000 views on the threads. ENOUGH.

I don't give a s#it about Marks youtube account now - in terms of what the CoS was directly trying to achieve, they succeeded. In the process, hopefully, they have opened up a number of other fronts where the will fail.

What REALLY pisses me off - and I mean REALLY is YouTube willfully collaborating with an enemy of Anonymous. And, inarguably, willfully collaborating with a demonstrably evil entity. F#ck em both I say, hard, and in whatever orifice causes the most pain. Hell, tear a new one just for the fun of it (providing it's legal of course - but companies have been legally raping each other for years - it's just business)

[OB: CoS is evil, not the members]