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Old 05-12-2008, 08:03 PM   #1 (link to here)
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May 10 a FAIL or a WIN??

Help me out here.

I don't see any significant media coverage of it.

The signs in the videos I've seen had the same problems people complained about previously: too small and no good info/website addy.

What is the problem here?

Too much worry about catching "lulz", and not enough understanding that educating the public = lulz.

Anon who want to make things stupid and obscure are missing the target.

I blame the name. "Battletoad Earth" f'd up this months efforts. The media looked at that and decided it was worth ignoring.

Let's remember, lulz can be achieved in subtle ways.

If we strive to be articulate, intelligent, and informative then scientology takes a hit and that = lulz.

If we strive only to pick a goofy operation name then WE take a hit and scientology scores a win.
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Old 05-12-2008, 10:17 PM   #2 (link to here)
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Re: May 10 a FAIL or a WIN??

Um, we came, we caeked, we conquered.

if you read the individual city reports, we made a difference. Public were informed, the Germans got egged, the Hollywood people held up a bus for hours--if wiht all our protests, we get three people to leave--that's HUGE. so what if we dont get media coverage every protest and frankly we did get coverage in various cities, some was BEFORE (Dublin, CNN, Headline News), SF, Copenhagen, etc.

Fun was had, points were made, food was eaten, positive enturbulation occured. Your point?
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Old 05-12-2008, 10:23 PM   #3 (link to here)
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Re: May 10 a FAIL or a WIN??

I have read tons of ww posts and the 10th was epic win all round.

Every protest has its story and it is fascinating.

Not all the videos are up yet either.

What I might suggest is

lurk moar?
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Old 05-12-2008, 10:40 PM   #4 (link to here)
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Re: May 10 a FAIL or a WIN??

Edit: Better judgement says we had more on Saturday than we did in 2007 combined. numbers mean nothing. Truth means everything.

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Old 05-13-2008, 12:04 AM   #5 (link to here)
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Re: May 10 a FAIL or a WIN??

Let's not forget Jason Beghe turned up in support of the SF-Anon.

I'd say..
EPIC WIN

True a bit disappointing that there wasn't more Media coverage.
But as more and more of the public becomes informed.. The more likely we're to get the media coverage you so desperately seek.
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Old 05-13-2008, 12:25 AM   #6 (link to here)
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Re: May 10 a FAIL or a WIN??

Jason Beghe and Boris, the ex-CIA agent = win.

I do think that the OP has somewhat of a point. Although the Battletoads thing was meant for fun, I don't think it helped (but that's just my opinion). HOWEVER, this protest was anything but fail. I protested in Nashville, and I brought 100 pamphlets with me. I left with none. A lot of people had no idea what we were protesting, and to those who accepted the pamphlets or flyers that we had that day, they will become educated. Many of the people I gave pamphlets to immediately opened them up and began reading. Even if they never choose to protest, at least we planted the seeds of truth about the CoS.

Bottom line, a lot of people became educated about Scientology on May 10th. That can never be seen as a failure.
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Old 05-13-2008, 12:31 AM   #7 (link to here)
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Re: May 10 a FAIL or a WIN??

Win in germany

Increase of protesters, increase of lulz, increase of $cilon couter activity

But yes, some of the points you have are true, wee need to have a clearer message on signs, and try to obtain lulz and be meanigful at the same time.
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Old 05-13-2008, 12:43 AM   #8 (link to here)
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Re: May 10 a FAIL or a WIN??

WIN. Significant media coverage.. ? When did any SINGLE protest get significant (as in national- in the US, I assume) media coverage?

Anon vs CoS was on CNN last week. Most of our big PR wins aren't attributable to any single protest.
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Old 05-13-2008, 02:04 AM   #9 (link to here)
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Re: May 10 a FAIL or a WIN??

WIN. Numbers were down because of exams; stop with all the doom and gloom already!
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Old 05-13-2008, 03:34 AM   #10 (link to here)
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Re: May 10 a FAIL or a WIN??

OP isn't trying to answer the question in the topic, seems to just have decided it was fail.

I'm not sure yet, personally. Brisbane was an epic win in all aspects, and there are quite a few other cities that look that way too (Washington DC and Auckland look especially good). I've heard of a few failure and some truly epic failures as well though.
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Old 05-13-2008, 05:47 AM   #11 (link to here)
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May 10: epic win + reality check, that this is about the long run and difficulties exist.

also, structures become slowly visible. This is a good thing. It's not really completely unknown territory anymore. experiences are collected about how protestors, public, PIs, scientologists, press, police react under different circumstances.

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Old 05-13-2008, 06:03 AM   #12 (link to here)
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Re: May 10 a FAIL or a WIN??

Sadly, Anon's numbers will keep decreasing -- there's no denying that. The CO$ raid fad is wearing off, and people/media are getting bored of it. Our protests are way too frequent, and have lost their shock-effect; we can't expect to hold monthly protests and maintain high attendance. No one (except for us :D) organizes monthly protests/events for that very reason.

In terms of media coverage, our protests are pretty much the same -- we stand around, wave our signs, Rick-roll the cult, hand out flyers. Why would the media be interested in telling the same story over and over? It may have been original 3 months ago, but now it's become routine as far as the public is concerned.

What will probably happen in the next few months is the protests will dwindle down to a small core group of die-hard Anons who will continue attending future raids rain or shine. Anyone not fully committed to the cause will eventually drop out. But that's really all we need -- a few dedicated anons to keep the cult on their toes, and the public informed!
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Old 05-13-2008, 06:09 AM   #13 (link to here)
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People finally are noticing that we are here to stay. Numbers are down for multiple reasons, but everytime we go out no matter what the numbers- people are informed. They're becoming regular. A couple of people came up and said "I know all about it already, and I support you guys."

The hype is wearing down, but the knowledge is sinking in. PreMay10th... we had CNN coverage. That means we are impacting mainstream culture at least somewhat.
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Old 05-13-2008, 06:12 AM   #14 (link to here)
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I'm not so pessimistic. Don't forget the exams. A lot of media haven't reported yet as well, so their readers won't grow bored from repetitive descriptions.
In addition to this, if the media would really start to report the truth about Scientology in detail this surely would offer them material for a lot of interesting stories. Also, one never knows what all those thousands of people who were handed a leaflet and read it will do, once some of them inform themselves and find out the truth.

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I brought 100 pamphlets with me. I left with none. A lot of people had no idea what we were protesting, and to those who accepted the pamphlets or flyers that we had that day, they will become educated. Many of the people I gave pamphlets to immediately opened them up and began reading.
this alone is epic win imo.
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Old 05-13-2008, 06:17 AM   #15 (link to here)
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Re: May 10 a FAIL or a WIN??

Call the WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMBULANCE!!!

Jokes:D Numbers will go down, but they will go up too. We are people with lives, unlike the $cilons.

It's about enturbulating the Co$, and demonstrating that WE AINT GOIN NOWHERE.

Do moar flash raids. Sidle up to $cilons and start chatting. Perseverence will increase the pressure on them, and moar and moar stuff will start to go wrong for them.

Keep being inventive and coming up with new shit. If a theme, or an idea doesn't work for your location, do something else. Anonymous is flexible.

And BRING THREE FRIENDS.

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Old 05-13-2008, 06:30 AM   #16 (link to here)
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Re: May 10 a FAIL or a WIN??

The Cbus protest was probably the lulziest so far, with Shaft the PI, Drunk Scilon, Cult Zones, Thetan cupcakes (next month I am bringing chocolate volcano cakes! \o/) rick rolls and sing alongs, a dance party and mass enturbulation.

If you think we had a fail here or in fact anywhere that an Anon showed up then you are are a SRS BAWWWWFAG and need to cut the emo shit.
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Old 05-13-2008, 07:27 AM   #17 (link to here)
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Boston's protest was the most fun we have had yet. We also gave out more flyers this time then at any other event we have had.

Looking at the numbers for unique visitors to Why We Protest I would say it went great. "23,113 Visits", thats the last 4 days. I am happy with that. "3.39% Bounce Rate", that means 96% of the people who come to the site view multiple pages, instead of just leaving after hitting the main page.
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Old 05-13-2008, 07:32 AM   #18 (link to here)
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whatchoo talkin bout willis?
that shit was WIN.
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Old 05-13-2008, 07:42 AM   #19 (link to here)
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Re: May 10 a FAIL or a WIN??

Were you there or did you support the 10th is some way? = WIN

Some media almost has the story correct now. For a collective with no leaders, that's fuckin EPIC WIN.

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