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Toronto Org 50% Property Tax Exemption
Heard back from MPAC (Municipal Property Assessment Corporation):
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Re: Toronto Org 50% Property Tax Exemption
Here's the ROLA (it tastes just like cherry-cola):
Religious Organizations' Lands Act, R.S.O. 1990, c. R.23 I notice that they didn't award any kind of Ontario charity status to CoS in 1995. The counsel for Toronto just waved his hand and said it looked charitable. Quote:
And then it all got shoveled over to MPAC, where no one knows (or admits to knowing) the original reasons. Quote:
If there is a separate legal charity status under the laws of Ontario, how come they don't mention it on their own page about frauds? Charity Scams - Government of Ontario (Canada) No reference to anything other than CRA here either: Ontario - Not-for-Profit I think that the "charitable according to the law of Ontario" part confused someone. A lot of taxation powers belong to the provinces, but they've all (except Quebec, naturellement) assigned them to a federal agency to exercise them. The CRA is the organization that determines if something is a charity under the laws of Ontario.
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Re: Toronto Org 50% Property Tax Exemption
I'm still digging, but it's quite clear that MPAC's answer is full of fail.
Application forms for Municipal Tax Reductions, Rebates & Refunds Quote:
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Re: Toronto Org 50% Property Tax Exemption
Got it. The Ontario Municipal Act, which is uphill from MPAC:
Municipal Act, 2001 Quote:
City of Toronto Act, 2006, S.O. 2006, c. 11 , Sched. A CRA registration or GTFO!
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The first Church of Scientology was incorporated in New Jersey in 1953, but sadly, not in Grover's Mill. Last edited by DeathHamster; 07-28-2008 at 09:30 AM. Reason: Toronto |
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Re: Toronto Org 50% Property Tax Exemption
Now, turning to the other excuse...
Under the Assessment Act, Section 3(1)3, "Land that is owned by a church or religious organization". CoS is no longer on the list of recognized religious organizations (able to perform weddings and such) in Ontario. That one is also CRA or GTFO. So that's a change. I also see that while CoS appealed to the Superior Court of Justice under 46, it was a non-binding agreement rather than a court judgment that holds the current situation in place. And the City of Toronto can no longer un-agree, so it's up to MPAC. The people at MPAC should know all the ins and outs of these acts, so I guessing that they know very well that CoS doesn't qualify, but they don't want to open that can of worms unless they're forced to. What tier was the person who responded, and is there any way to bump it up a level?
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The first Church of Scientology was incorporated in New Jersey in 1953, but sadly, not in Grover's Mill. Last edited by DeathHamster; 07-28-2008 at 10:09 AM. |
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Re: Toronto Org 50% Property Tax Exemption
I am not a Cannuk, and I have no knowledge of the operations of the authorities. Yet, my belief is that *if enough noise, with proper reference to the law were made*, the relevant authorities would have no choice but to refuse the cult's 50% charitable exemption.
I would do three things: 1. Make a protest with the relevant authorities 2. Copy the protest docs to *every* media center (or, is it centre?) in your area of Canada. 3. Have at least two Anons who are willing to be namefagged if the relevant authorities want testimony. "At least two" since depending on one with other demands on time might fail; "two" at least means there is backup. Good luck. Longcat is long and strong. Q Last edited by Quaoar; 07-28-2008 at 01:30 PM. |
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Re: Toronto Org 50% Property Tax Exemption
DeathHamster: Thanks for the posts.
Do you (anonameusfawkes, DeathHamster, others) think that it's time to bring this to the attention of City Councillors?
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Re: Toronto Org 50% Property Tax Exemption
I do.
Just a thought, you might want to get some big churches behind ya first.
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Re: Toronto Org 50% Property Tax Exemption
Wow DH, I expected this thread to pass into oblivion unnoticed by all.
Without namefagging who replied to me from MPAC (yet), their position is Commercial Valuation Analyst. Here is their Board of Directors though — no direct links to email or phone numbers, but it won't be hard finding contact info for them: http://www.mpac.ca/pages_english/about_mpac/board.asp Revenue Canada's Enforcement and Disclosures contact sheet for Toronto: Enforcement and Disclosures Program Ontario's ombudsman's site — he's our "watchdog" and investigates this sort of thing: Ombudsman Ontario — Welcome to the Ombudsman of Ontario Website If we think we have a solid case, we should start drafting a detailed rebuttal/complaint. eta: Yonge Street BIA board of directors: About Downtown Yonge | DownTown Yonge BIA
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Last edited by anonameusfawkes; 07-28-2008 at 07:57 PM. |
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Re: Toronto Org 50% Property Tax Exemption
Another variable to consider, Hellrazor, is if we can present this information to an individual or group (ie. authorized charitable organizations, elected officials, or even some unions if it could be considered applicable) and get a bit of their clout behind it?
If several persons from a wide variety of backgrounds and postions were to decry this tax exemption as unfair than action would be inevitable. Last edited by Opportunity; 07-28-2008 at 07:53 PM. |
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Re: Toronto Org 50% Property Tax Exemption
^^^THIS^^^
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Re: Toronto Org 50% Property Tax Exemption
bump?
What happened?
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Re: Toronto Org 50% Property Tax Exemption
Bump again. Also reviving this discussion on Why hello there.
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Re: Toronto Org 50% Property Tax Exemption
I spoke to Gregg Hagglund at the protest today. A while ago, he got a hold of the document with the lawyer for Toronto's reasoning for giving Scientology the property tax break: They had applied for charity status and should be receiving it in a year or two; the charity status would be backdated to the date of the application, so Scientology would probably get that money back anyway.
Gregg doesn't remember if it was a publicly available document or he had to do a FOIA request, but he does think that he posted the text to ARS. I'll try digging that up, and see what it says. With that, showing that the agreement was clearly dependent on CoS getting charity status (FAIL!), I think that all the excuses in the MPAC reply would be nailed, and it would be time to boil this thread down into another letter to the person at MPAC. (Gregg was impressed when I told that someone had got a reply back from MPAC, btw!)
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Re: Toronto Org 50% Property Tax Exemption
Some ARS threads relevant to our interests:
G&M Exposes Canada Co$ Charity Bid Status Opposition Brief in Canada Part 1 COMMENTS? RevCan Chartities Stadards (long) Scientology religious status in Ontario Canada - NOT!
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