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Norway: Anti-Psychology exhibition in Oslo
Frontpage in Norway's largest website:
Scientologer viste bilder av døde barn på åpen gate - VG Nett |
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Re: Norway: Anti-Psychology exhibition in Oslo
Can anybody get an english translation of this, possibly?
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Re: Norway: Anti-Psychology exhibition in Oslo
do they have more of these exibitions running? Because one of the partyvanys belonging to this exhibition was sighted in Frankfurt Germany yesterday ...
inb4pics or it didn´t hapen ... CCHR world tour also see the FFM thread, miniraid the shit out of them!
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Re: Norway: Anti-Psychology exhibition in Oslo
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Someone man harpoons, the anti-Psychology thing is still run based of Scientology principles and part of the Scientology agenda. Does it have the "Holocaust is because of psychiatrists?" thing? |
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Re: Norway: Anti-Psychology exhibition in Oslo
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Re: Norway: Anti-Psychology exhibition in Oslo
I would give a proper translation, but got too many exams on top of one another at current.
Basic of the article; The CCHR in Norway (or Scandinavia to be precise, Norway just not big enough), is holding their usual scaremongering bullshit exhibition against psycathry at Østbanehallen at Oslo Sentralbanestasjon. You don't need to know more than that this is one of the most heavily traficcated buildings in all of Norway. The CCHR people deny any involvment with the CoS, which is pretty much bunked by the article itself, although the information is gathered through wikipedia. More interesting is the spokesperson for psychologist basically calling them disrespectful. Nothing new really, but great that they are reporting on it. Connected debate is full of people saying; "What the fuck is wrong with these people", and what will be my signature. |
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Re: Norway: Anti-Psychology exhibition in Oslo
Scientologists displayed pictures of dead children in public
Folkehelseinstituttet*: - "Disrespectful" (* People's health institute - government org which does preventative healthcare, public education and research. Kind of like the NIH & Surgeon General.) Image caption: "MESSAGE OF DEATH ABOUT PSYCHIATRY: Ferenc Tamas is a scientologist who claims that psychiatric medications are humbug and that psychiatry causes suffering and death, as the banners read." ØSTBANEHALLEN(VG Nett) In an attack on psychiatry the scientologists are displaying pictures of dead children at Østbanehallen in Oslo. - Psychiatric treatment is an industry of death, one of them tells VG Nett. In the space of roughly a hundred square meters of the Østbanehallen in the middle of downtown Oslo, the organization "Medborgernes menneskerettighetskommisjon" (Norwegian CCHR) has erected an exhibit. The first thing greets the visitor is a several meters large sign with the text: "Psychiatry - injury and death", printed over a picture of a creepy steel door. The organization was founded by the Church of Scientology and the new exhibition comes shortly after the suicide of 20 year-old Kaja Bordevick Ballo. She had shortly before taken a personality test administered by the Church of Scientology in Nice, where she studied. At the exhibition a number of large signs and TV-screens inform you of the morbidity of psychiatry through the ages - and today as well, according to the organization. - We want to keep people from falling into the trap. Ferenc Tamas who's staffing the exhibition booth claims the organization is a human-rights-group who wants to open the eyes of the public. - We want to show people these facts so that they don't fall into the trap, says Tamas. He claims that psychiatric illnesses are often due to physical things like their diet and such. - It can be something hidden, like toxins, parasites, bad food, problems with viatmins. Bad diets can also cause children to become hyperactive, Tamas says. (Website link here, "Discuss: Does the organization go to far, or is this good?") (Heading) - Psychiatry does actually have something to contribute. He claims his organization was started by the controversial Church of Scientology, but is independent. He is, on the other hand, a scientologist himself. - We're independent of the church and this is not a religious event, Tamas says. He travells around and speaks about the damage caused by psychiatry. He underlines the fact that many other religious groups, such as the Catholic church, also have their own large subgroups. - Some give homeless a place to sleep, whereas we take on mental health issues, Tamas says. The leader of CCR (sic) Norway (Citizens Comission(sic) on Human Rights) Paal Fuglevaag reacts to being linked with the Church of Scientology, and claims that even though those staffing their exhibit are scientologists and the group was founded by the church, that most members are not scientologists. - There are no ties to the church of scientology. I'm myself a member of Skedsmo parish. Here in Norway this is a humanitarian organization like Amnesty International, even if there are some scientologists who volunteer and it's true that the group was founded by the Church of Scientology, he says to VG Nett. According to Wikipedia, the organization has always claimed to be independent, but American authorities view it as one of the units of the Church of Scientology. It is also financed by the church. - They may say so in the USA, but we don't think that's the case, Fuglevaag says, who says members have financed the exhibit. He claims the exhibit has an age limit of 15 and-over, and that children cannot attend without an adult. He also claims the use of strong imagery is necessary. Inside the exhibit you'll have to look carefully to find anything that says it's connected to the scientologists, but one of the pamphlets informs the visitors that the organization was founded by the Church of Scientology in 1969 to expose psychiatry's human-rights violations. Psychiatrist Jørgen Bramness is a researcher at Folkehelseinstituttet and is on the Board of biological psychiatry of the Norwegian Psychiatric Association. He claims this type of information is disrespectful. - To me it's important to say that psychiatry actually does have something to contribute, and it's a bit disrespectful towards all those who are actually helped when you tell them they've just been poisioned, or something else, he told VG Nett. (heading)- The profession is caricatured He said that they've earlier often let similar things be ignored, since it was felt that there may be some therapeutic value to criticize psychiatry to people who felt they hadn't been helped. - People have diverging experiences of psychiatry. Regardless I think it's a shame the profession is caricatured in this way. It doesn't represent any reality in today's psychiatry. My experience of psychiatry is quite the opposite, that many people are doing as good a job as they can to help those who have psychiatric problems, Bramness said. (Image) Caption: "FEW VISITORS: There were relatively few visitors when VG Nett visited the exhibition on wednesday afternoon. According to Tamas there have been several hundred visitors. The exhibition will last until May 30) (heading) - Uses school-shooting in Finland as an example In the exhibition in downtown Oslo, the group has taken last fall's school-shooting in Finland as an example for their cause, and among other things hung up several pages from VG at the end of the tour. According to Ferenc Tamas both this and other shootings can be blamed on medication, which the organization claims weren't medicines in general, but mood-altering drugs. - We humans want to explain things and see connections. Sometimes we see that it's true that the perpetrator had started to take medication, other times that they'd stopped and sometimes that they'd been denied. There's no research that supports these kinds of connections, Bramness says. (heading) - Didn't know it was connected to the scientologists He says it's foolish to debate on the foundation that the organization has laid. - With these statements the trenches are so deep and the claims to absurd that it's foolish to debate them. My experience is that negative consequences are most often seen when people have held a need for help for a long time, and haven't been given that help, the psychiatrist said. A causal visitor to the exhibition thinks it seems interesting. - There's a lot to digest, the man, who wished to remain anonymous, said. - Did you know that this is a subgroup of the Church of Scientology? - No, I didn't. They've been in the media a lot lately, haven't they, he asks, after having spent a half-hour in the exhibit. (heading) Brands psychiatrists as criminals. In the beginning of the pamphlet "Psyhicatry - an industry of death" it reads: "The psychiatrists continue unabated to harm in the name of help. Just by exposing their crimes publicly and targeted actions from single persons have caused signficiant change... CCR Norway will continue to fight until the brutal practice of psychiatry is stopped." The afterword to the documentary film with the same name continues to brand psychiatrists as criminals: "At least ten percent of psychiatrists assault their patients sexually, where at least one in twenty is a minor." (VG NETT 09.05.2008 kl. 12:43, Last update 09.05.2008 kl. 14:17 Last edited by MongoLloyd; 05-09-2008 at 07:37 AM. |
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Re: Norway: Anti-Psychology exhibition in Oslo
This is so funny, when people see Scientology doing shit like this, and then sees Anonymous, they will know which sides to pick.
Last edited by CCN; 05-09-2008 at 06:40 AM. |
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This is the most absurd thing I've ever read. I'm surprised that they have intact buttholes after reaching so incredibly far up their respective anus' to find this piece of false information.
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Re: Norway: Anti-Psychology exhibition in Oslo
As a personal sidenote.. I'd brand this a major footbullet (AGAIN) for the CoS. Far more people will read this story than ever would've seen their exhibit.
The timing is just impeccable. The big Dagbladet exposé on Scientology (in part thx to Anonymous, no doubt) in Febuary, lead up to the explosion over the Kaja Ballo suicide last month, which lead to them getting a week-long asswhopping which has killed any chances of expansion in Norway for the cult for the forseeable future. And now, a month later, they do this. As if just to remind people of this cult, their agenda, and their front-groups. Had it been a year earlier or later, it might've passed under the radar and avoided scrutiny. But now.. the "last nail in the coffin" metaphor doesn't cut it anymore.. now they're being re-exhumed and a stake driven through the cult's heart just to make sure.. |
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Re: Norway: Anti-Psychology exhibition in Oslo
So the CCHR has set up their industry of death doohickey in the Østbanehallen of the Oslo S (Central train station). They have a bunch of those "Oh no we're not scientologists" guys down there. Somebody might want to go down there with autopsy photos of Lisa McPherson. While wearing white coats, bottle-bottom glasses and with thick German accents. More russ are being "informed".
![]() But wait, what's in this direction. ![]() Wait for it. . . . ![]() What the Christ? I didn't even know that Oslo had a GameStop. What are the odds of them being right next to each other? PS: The GameStop was still open an hour ago, the entrance is from the other side of the store. So even if it looks closed, the GamesStop and the Scientology place, the kiosk and the fast food place were the only places open at this hour.
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Last edited by Vir; 05-09-2008 at 12:38 PM. |
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Re: Norway: Anti-Psychology exhibition in Oslo
ROFLMAO!!
Please, get them to put up a small sign saying: "BATTLETOADS PREORDERS MAY BE PICKED UP NEXT-DOOR ---->" |
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Re: Norway: Anti-Psychology exhibition in Oslo
The Norwegian press keeps the subject of scientology "warm". Anything they try to get positive attention will be exposed and ridiculed. This is a major win, scientology is now seen as a dangerous cult by most norwegians. I guess their stats are down!
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Re: Norway: Anti-Psychology exhibition in Oslo
Note how the article points out that the CCHR claims to be unaffiliated, but still calls them scientologits.
Win? Win. Also dangerous cult
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Re: Norway: Anti-Psychology exhibition in Oslo
Just look them in their eyes, and you know they are scientologists.
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