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Old 05-06-2008, 01:12 PM   #41 (link to here)
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Re: Freewinds -- US Team to Clean Asbestos

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Old 05-06-2008, 01:14 PM   #42 (link to here)
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Don't have the time to watch that,
but yes, lot of corruption in that area.
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Old 05-06-2008, 01:20 PM   #43 (link to here)
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I understand your desire for a reality check. I'm not sure about who is watching, but I know that, to date, the press certainly is not. I don't think a small local paper on an island and some industry blog counts as having the media's attention.

Scientology Inc. gets away with plenty of violations of law in the US alone. I'm far from convinced that a few government officials are an assurance of anything being done on the up and up. I think the only key here, is to do what we can to make sure the press is, in fact, watching.

Right now, virtually no one knows about this at all, especially the folks who have been exposed! Again, I think the key here is to simply try to get the message out, loudly and often, to the mainstream media and the poor folks who have been exposed and won't find out about it from their "church".
The "rub" is that with the pure number of emails people have sent out to various news orgs, there's NO WAY they don't know about this now. It's current breaking news and so the reporting cycle on it should be hours or days, not weeks or months, so the fact that nobody HAS reported on it is really bad. It means that while they are willing to risk making the occasional "Tom Cruise is still nutty" wisecrack in a column, that they are still scared shitless of being sued if they pursue a REAL news story that shows the Scilons in a negative light. I mean reporting on the VERY verifiable fact that asbestos is being carried off a ship where Tom Cruise, John Travolta etc have stayed, among thousands of others, SHOULD be a safe story. They don't have to imply these people WERE in danger, that's the part that could be actionable, the reporting simply would have to be that the asbestos is there, on that ship these folks have been on, and is now being removed. Bam. Report that and how could you be sued? But they won't.

Keep emaing these news orgs, I say. Just don't get your hopes up.
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Old 05-06-2008, 01:24 PM   #44 (link to here)
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Has anyone sent the news to celebrity gossip shows like Entertainment Tonight, Access Hollywood and Extra? It seems like something they'd normally jump on.
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Old 05-06-2008, 01:31 PM   #45 (link to here)
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Has anyone sent the news to celebrity gossip shows like Entertainment Tonight, Access Hollywood and Extra? It seems like something they'd normally jump on.
You'd have to, in those cases, SPECIFICALLY hit the angle that celebs have been on board that ship nonstop (you may want to be careful with the phrase "exposed" if it turns out that the Scilons "prove" that levels were monitored and too low).

The story is "death ship with asbestos, virtually all other ships of that vintage were scrapped because of this but not this one, celebs constantly on board for past 20 years, Woodcraft warned, asbestos now being removed".

Also, if anyone knows the contacts for shows like "Inside Edition", Australia's "A Current Affair" and/or "Today Tonight", etc. those should be relevant too.

My funniest thought was that someone should contact Dr. Phil. Because even though he's a schmuck, he's definitely no longer on the "Oprah" side.
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Old 05-06-2008, 01:32 PM   #46 (link to here)
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Re: RADAR: Cancer on the Lido Deck: Clean Team Enters Scientology's S.S. Asbestos

I wonder if the sister ship "Princess Marissa" is offline too with similar problems?
This site says it is "not available"

Cyprus cruises with Princess Marissa
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Old 05-06-2008, 01:33 PM   #47 (link to here)
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Guys please. Do a reality check.

At least four specialized companies are involved, although I admit at least two of them are small companies (Welcome to Selikor Website is another).

But get real. There's just no way that Co$ is getting RPF'ers on this. Not with the spotlights on them. CDM is pissed. Goverment is involved. Press is watching.

I know the fuckers would love to, but right now, it's being handled by pros.

Reality Cheque.

The cost of a proper court case settlement could easily go into the 100's of $millions

The cost of $20-40 million in bribes could be well spent on making evidence go away or getting minimized.

If I were in an evil cult, I would go with 1/10th cost of sweeping it under the rug best I could.
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Old 05-06-2008, 01:34 PM   #48 (link to here)
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In the Amigoe article, Ras says the seriousness of the asbestos threat is "a matter of interpretation." So, for instance, if you breathed in blue asbestos on the ship, you might die. Or you could get lucky, dodge any potentially cancer-causing particles, and live out a life of religious fulfillment.
Imma signing my soul off to Radar.

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Old 05-06-2008, 01:37 PM   #49 (link to here)
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I wonder if the sister ship "Princess Marissa" is offline too with similar problems?
This site says it is "not available"

Cyprus cruises with Princess Marissa
Things that make you go Hmmmmm....

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Old 05-06-2008, 01:39 PM   #50 (link to here)
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Hmm. Inside Edition:

Inside Edition - About - Contact Info


I actually didn't realize they were part of CBS. But not CBS News, I think.


Contact Inside Edition
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Imma signing my soul off too Radar.
Do what I did sign up for a yearly sub.

I support people who report good shit.
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Hmm. Inside Edition:

Inside Edition - About - Contact Info


I actually didn\'t realize they were part of CBS. But not CBS News, I think.


Contact Inside Edition
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Old 05-06-2008, 01:44 PM   #53 (link to here)
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I just subscribed to Radar last week. Tyler Gray better get a raise.
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Old 05-06-2008, 01:44 PM   #54 (link to here)
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American standards???
That ship is in Dutch territory, so Dutch rules apply!
(Asbestos is forbidden there!)
What's the standard for the US? I thought blue asbestos was illegal here too. *goes off to check*

All things considered, I wonder what's the point of using a small US team all the way from Florida for the cleaning? Is it more cost efficient or something?
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Old 05-06-2008, 02:00 PM   #55 (link to here)
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AirQest Envronmental: From their site

AirQuest Environmental - Miami - Fort Lauderdale - Boca Raton - West Palm Beach - Florida

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2 Asbestos Abatement [Note: ACM is Asbestos Containing Material]

Once the decision has been made to remove ACM, [**]AirQuest can manage the cost-effective removal process through the use of subcontractors with whom AirQuest has competitive rates and long-standing relationships. [**]AirQuest manages the project from the project design, submission of the ten-day notification to State and local EPA representatives, subcontracting and management of removal activities, clearance procedures, and compilation of a post-abatement report. The post abatement report includes a daily journal of abatement activities, daily and clearance air monitoring results and waste disposal manifests. All procedures and documentation are designed to meet the requirements of Federal, state and local regulatory agencies.

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So, what we have is some small environmental company that can do abatement of asbestos via nothing more than hiring subcontractors. Subcontractors from whom, one might wonder? Well, we should consider wondering no more: the subs are most likely from Scientology's EPF, RPF, RPF's RPF, etc.

AirQuest is nothing more than a project management shell whose web site has not one single notation of any qualified and/or certified management or the CV's of their management. Any reputable engineering/environmental firm lists the qualifications of their principals, since that is all they have to offer on the web. That there is not one single name of a principal in AirQuest is a huge RED FLAG, IMO.

One wonders if AirQuest is in actuality a Scientology front set up for the purpose of providing validity for Scientology's using unqualified Scientology members or SO in their own renovations of contaminated buildings? It's food for thought.

Here is the Florida corporate registration for AirQuest Environmental.
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The URL is humongously long so here is a tinyurl for this doc: www.sunbiz.org - Department of State

Original URL:

www.sunbiz.org - Department of State
nq_doc_number=P02000093621&inq_came_from=NAMFWD&co r_
web_names_seq_number=0000&names_name_ind=N&names_c or
_number=&names_name_seq=&names_name_ind=&names_c
omp_name=AIRQUEST&names_filing_type=

**Note that the registration has these two salient entries:

Registered Agent Name & Address
CORPORATE CREATIONS NETWORK, INC. <====== Web managers and corporate managers
941 FOURTH STREET #200====for hire
MIAMI BEACH FL 33139 US
Officer/Director Detail
Name & Address
Title DPVS
BOYLE, TRACI-ANNE <====== Traci-Anne is likely either the principal
3030 SOUTHWEST 19TH STREET === of the company, or an employee of the
FORT LAUDERDALE FL 33312=== Registered Agent. "DPVS" is a weird
===title for a corporate officer. I find no
===Google connection of her to the kult.

Full Corporate Registration:

Florida Profit Corporation
AIRQUEST ENVIRONMENTAL, INC.
Filing Information
Document Number P02000093621
FEI Number 050529142
Date Filed 08/28/2002
State FL
Status ACTIVE
Principal Address
3030 SW 19TH ST
FT LAUDERDALE FL 33312
Changed 07/22/2004
Mailing Address
3030 SW 19TH ST
FT LAUDERDALE FL 33312
Changed 07/22/2004
Registered Agent Name & Address
CORPORATE CREATIONS NETWORK, INC.
941 FOURTH STREET #200
MIAMI BEACH FL 33139 US
Officer/Director Detail
Name & Address
Title DPVS
BOYLE, TRACI-ANNE
3030 SOUTHWEST 19TH STREET
FORT LAUDERDALE FL 33312
Title T
BOYLE, TRACI-ANNE
3030 SOUTHWEST 19TH STREET
FORT LAUDERDALE FL 33312
Annual Reports
Report Year Filed Date
2006 01/25/2006
2007 02/08/2007
2008 03/04/2008
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Old 05-06-2008, 02:10 PM   #56 (link to here)
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One other important thing about AirQuest Environmental:

They have only registrations in Florida for three years (two years since the last is for the "next" year) for 2006,2007,2008.

Having started my own engineering/environmental company, I can verify that two years of operation is, frankly, not enough for any kind of credibility. The development of my company took five years before the industry realized that we might be capable. It took another two years to make enough money to stay in business and pay back the massive amount of money I put into the business. This AirQuest is likely nothing more that a shell being used for other purposes. There is no way that a two year old environmental firm has *any* credibility to be engaging in the decontamination of a cruise ship.

IMO, YMMV

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