Question for OTIII or above

Originally Posted by ValentinSelezynov

That was rude and uncalled for. The person who started this thread asked to speak with people who are OTIII. i have every right to post here in respons.

I'm prefectly willing to answer questions that the person may have. and i don't think that you making suppresive comments is in the spirit of this forum, so please stop. Now.

I DIE A LITTLE BIT INSIDE EVERY TIME I SEE YOU POST

Originally Posted by ValentinSelezynov

suppresive comments

YouTube - You keep using that word.

[quote=lermanet_com;151649]do you recall the part of OTIII where he said "to only run your BTs and yourself through Incident II of OTIII UNTIL YOU SEE THE PICTURE OF THE PILOT SAYING IM MOCKING IT UP"

Actually, that is a key point
The instruction to continue until you see the picture of the pilot is like an hypnotic suggestion, and you will eventually think you actually thought and saw it. The brainwashing feeds on itself, and you lose your basis in reality to take a step back and think that what you are doing is ridiculous bullshit
(at least at the time)

METHOD ONE UN-BRAINWASHING DRILL:

Put up a picture of yourself in your house and every morning salute it and say Hip Hip Hooray! and give yourself a standing ovation.
DO NOT CALL YOURSELF COMMODORE!!

My dog had body thetans...........................
I got her a flea collar
total cost $7.00
not bad considering
Jason Beghe spent $1million

Originally Posted by ValentinSelezynov

That was rude and uncalled for. The person who started this thread asked to speak with people who are OTIII. i have every right to post here in respons.

I'm prefectly willing to answer questions that the person may have. and i don't think that you making suppresive comments is in the spirit of this forum, so please stop. Now.

I would like to help you. I have visited your website, and you are an obviously very delusional person. I'm not saying this to insult you, as I have a form of Schizophrenia and I used to be very delusional myself. Medication saved my life, and medication can help you as well. I hope that you will seek psychiatric assistance before you end up harming yourself or someone else. Your website is just an obvious extension of your illness. Please get help.

Just so you know, I am aware of the lies that co$ comes up with about Anonymous being funded by Pharma or other pharmaceutical companies, and I can assure you no one is paying me a cent to spend my energy typing posts like this. I am just legitimately concerned about you as a human being being so obviously ill and yet talking about how Scientology - which has caused the deaths of some people with mental illnesses - helps you.

For what it's worth, a lot of people believe they are "special" and have super powers - because they're psychotic. A lot of people believe they can offer help to save the world - because they're psychotic. A lot of people who are homosexual believe there is something wrong with them and they need to be "cured" of it, because they have been conditioned by society to hate themselves for the fact that they are gay.

Rather than insult you for your ridiculous comments on your website - where you have the unabashed gall to compare the Holocaust (which should never be compared with ANYTHING) to the way Germany treats the Co$ - I would like to tell you that, as a fellow human being, I am concerned for your welfare. And I can tell you that I know what it's like to be psychotic, and to not know you are. I say this to help you.

Sorry for derailing the thread, Mods. I just think this needs to be said.

Okay, to the people who are saying "It can be seen as a metaphor"...

WHAT THE FUCK KIND OF METAPHOR CAN YOU POSSIBLY GET FROM A SPACE OPERA STORY?

There is practically zero symbolism, it is all space-fiction bullshit. You can say "Killing is bad" and "Psychologists are bad" and that's really about as deep as you can read into it without jumping on shadows.

Originally Posted by evolvinganon

I would like to help you. I have visited your website, and you are a TROLL

FIFY.

That web site is three weeks old, has a fake address in the domain registration, and is (probably) by the same person as posts here. Why is it confirmation of anything?

Originally Posted by DeathHamster

FIFY.

That web site is three weeks old, has a fake address in the domain registration, and is (probably) by the same person as posts here. Why is it confirmation of anything?

Definatly a troll. However it appears he posted a blog about this forum on sunday. Not very nice, but bleh.. who cares.

A Co$ apologist in my thread? It's moar likely than you'd think!

Troll, spylon, pitiable deluded soul, pranking *channer, Freezoner or whatever, it was a de-rail of a potentially useful topic. Must have taken a wrong turn on the Information Superduperhighway (maybe at Albuquerque). Not really worth our time to suss out what the damage here is. Re-route around the thread damage, persevere.

Thanks, Michael & Arnie. That was interesting. Any other OTIII ex-Scis who might care to share their thoughts, should we manage to re-rail this thread?

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Please stop being teh meanz to ValentinSelezynov - he's obviously from OSA, but being rude to him will just reinforce his belief that we're supressing him and that we hate Scidongs. We need to at least show him we don't have anything against him personally.

I saw multiple anonymous baaaw-ing about how cos members don't engage in conversations and if they do they reply with personal attack not addressing questions asked.

Look at this thread!
some anon here are reacting IMO exacly the same way.

Originally Posted by Anonvox

Originally Posted by ValentinSelezynov
DISREGARD THAT, I SUCK COCKS

fix'd

Originally Posted by Anonvox

I call bullshit. I don't think you're anything but a retarted, schizophrenic troll. Claiming that the Scilon 'ban' in Germany is worse than the Holocaust was a dead giveaway. You even fucked up the story of Xenu in one of your posts. I'm just performing a public service by telling the OP this.

The only thing you have to contribute to the forum is to quietly leave. DO EET NAO!

Originally Posted by Randomness

You're a fucking troll imo.

I'm SP10, so I say "Pics or it didn't happen"

Originally Posted by Randomness

If you are ex/current OTIII, type out Incident II for me.

Let's hear it.

Originally Posted by ANON E MOOSE

I'm emotionally torn between the idea that you are a bad troll or a devoted freezoner who happens to be an idiot.

Originally Posted by anon9000+

I DIE A LITTLE BIT INSIDE EVERY TIME I SEE YOU POST

If you were on "the other side", would this create an impression that we are the happy, welcoming people with caek?

Here you had the opportunity to overhelm him with reason, facts and documents (and make fun along the way but not to insult)

I know this is kind of off topic but I see this too much to ignore it ...

There are key differences in religious text from Christianity to Scientology and although you've probably noticed that, it's good to illustrate that here just for the record. Most Christians (I say most, because I cannot speak for ALL Christians) really know that Christ never turned water into wine; however if you enter a Church they'll be happy to tell you the story and how it applies to your life or the lesson that they believe you are supposed to take away from the mythology.

With Scientology, the mythology is guarded from intellectual discourse because it is presented as factual evidence of a catastrophic genocide some seventy five million years ago on this planet. Hubbard does not elude to it being a story or a fictional account and therefore, most Scientologists (if not all) who proceed THROUGH the wall of fire accept it as a fact of matter, not a religious teaching gone awry.

What is it do you think that OT-3 is not permitted to be talked about? It is because LRH presents the story TO YOU in a factual manner which, given the details of OT-3 and incident two cannot possibly be historically authenticated.

You are being separated from discussing OT-3 with others because it prevents logical and intellectual discourse regarding the so-called "incident II" event. The less people hear it and can discuss it (which are almost none) then the less can challenge it's authenticity or voracity. Also, you're not a current Church Scientologist you're a Freezoner - no current Church member would come onto these forums even acknowledging incident-II let alone the confidentiality of it.

Here for the record, are the historical facts that clash with Incident-II so you can theorize whether or not what you have been instructed through Class-VIII or OT-III is factually acceptable

• How did Xenu and his people on Coitice send these thousands of people in space planes? How was it fiscally possible to have THAT MANY planes? It must have cost an eternity worth of money to just make the damn planes, let alone fuel them to travel -- assuming of course, you could actually FIT that many people into a DC-8 spacecraft.
• Nuclear bombs on my Earth? It's a lot less likely than you think and the historical record of Earth's soil/atmosphere disprove the theory immediately
• Where is all the fall-out from this genocide? The volcanoes on Earth look pretty solid to me -- surely they'd have been destroyed by atomic weapons being dropped into them
• ALSO, he made it up...

That's the attitude I'm talking about :)
Athough I'd be REALLY suprised if somebody tried to present OT3 story as fact. It's plain clear to everybody who have seen outside world even with one eye that it's just made up (provided they are not psychotic :D). Judging by interviews by exsci, many scientologists (as deluded as they already are) go like "WTF? Okay!?" when reading XENU story and have to do some mental gymnastic to accept it.
It can't survive rational thinking and Hubbard knew this. Why can't they talk about it? why is it confidential? Why the denial to public?
And regarding that metaphor thing :) I agree that someone who thinks it's ment like that by Hubbard is most likely freezoner, because in cos everything hubbard says is taken as hard fact.
Trying to rationalize it as metaphor is next step in menal gymnastic when person realises it's bullshit but still wants to believe it.
I think that's the case with christians too, as few hundred years ago nobody was saying it's just metaphor ... when it became more clear that it can't be true suddenly it's metaphor :D

Originally Posted by Andre Tabayoyon Affidavit

41. I also observed a number of individuals go crazy when exposed to the Hubbard Tech even absent malicious intent on the part of the persons applying the Tech. For example, I saw John Colletto go psychotic after he was exposed to the OT III level (Operating thetan level III) materials. He got a pistol. In my presence, he shot his wife in the head. She died instantly. Then John ran a short distance before turning the pistol on himself and committing suicide. Moreover, John Travolta's auditor told me of two occasions on which John Travolta went into deep depression after auditing and therefore suffered a psychotic break.

source: Affidavit of Andre Tabayoyon - 5 Mar 1994