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Re: Transcript: Larry Brennan Interview
Transcript from Larry Brennan on Glosslip Radio [40:00-50:00]
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[40:00]
LB: …this isn’t that land where that’s going to be run by Scientology policy this is the land that’s run by the US Constitution and you can’t throw somebody in jail for speaking their mind or your not supposed to be able to, right?!
DO: Right.
LB: So they went into a HUGE scenario where every day “We need this guy in jail…” and I’d say “He didn’t do anything wrong!” He stole a mailing list…No…he went and got a mailing list per his post per his actual JOB and it was like…but they wanted ** because they were being pressured from Miscavidge to get a head on a pike and it didn’t matter to them that the person was innocent or guilty they needed to have a head on a pike. And I look at Gregg’s thing and I go “Oh my God its 1982 all over again!! And they want a head on a pike, they want to take Anonymous down and they want to get people prosecuted for crimes no matter how made up they are and then use that in other ** all over the world…”look we’ve got a criminal in Boston we’ve got a criminal here and we’ve got a criminal there…” And the fact that they will be just ruining this guy’s life or so they
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would like to doesn’t affect them and it…Hubbard policies, which I didn’t bring, I don’t have with me right now are very clear to destroy people like this and to even make up things on them and that’s exactly what’s happening and I’ll tell you, let me tell you something…about this ‘church’ quote/unquote in Boston. Ummm, Gerard Renna is the guy in the Department of Special Affairs who’s speaking out about Anonymous being the criminals and he’s behind, he’s doing the footwork with the attorney behind trying to get Gregg prosecuted…years ago when I was quote/unquote ‘in good standing’ I was not on staff but I was a public Scientologist, Gerard contacted me because Stacey Young and Bob Minton were at Bob Minton’s place in New Hampshire and he asked me to come and we’re gonna harass him we’re gonna picket them saying that they’re having wild
[42:00]
affairs and all this other stuff and I said “Gerard, first of all it’s the guy’s property, secondly, why is it your business and thirdly how do you know they’re having affairs?” “Well, we don’t but we’re going to harass them,” right…I said “Gerard this is absolutely insane and I refuse to take part in it.” Well about a week later I get a call from him and he says “Well we shoulda listened to you a shot was fired, apparently by Bob Minton, the police came and there was a lot of hassels and I guess there were police records on this right now; but that same guy that’s trying to get Gregg had no problem just ‘Fair Gaming’ anybody who was quote/unquote ‘considered an enemy of the “church”’ And that was, not only as I’m saying about its their policy and how it was done by Miscavidge in ’82, its also done by the same guy who’s after Gregg now and if you want to know what the heart of this church is…umm…I’m not going to mention the guys name because of his family but some years ago, again when I was a public Scientologist, I got a call and what happened was a young man from Massachusetts who was a Scientologist shot himself
[43:00]
in the head, blew his brains out and killed himself. Just before he did that he wrote a note to his parents apologizing that he was going to do it and he asked for a Scientology funeral. I found out that the church of Scientology were denying the parents the funeral because they didn’t have money to pay for him and so I talked with a person, I wont even name her name because she might be out now, in organized Scientology in Boston and could not convince them I said “His parents are completely distraught, the boy’s dead there’s nothing worse that could happen in life why can’t you DO something…you’re supposed to be a religion.” They’re not going to do it they don’t have time and the parents can’t pay for it. So I went to a costume shop, bought a Roman minister’s collar and went and did a Scientology funeral…
DO: Ughhh…
LB: And it was very hard…ughhh…one second…
[44:00]
DO: You know, that right there I know of someone, and she’s in the chatroom, I know of a story that personally has compelled me a tremendous amount I mean its something I think about any time I get afraid and go “Oh, maybe I shouldn’t be doing this, this is really hard work,” this poor woman her family’s been completely destroyed and as compelling as her individual story is I know her story is like so many I can not believe the number of actual suicides related to the church of Scientology, it has to be inordinately high compared to other religions by the percentage of actual number of Scientologists and its not even just people IN Scientology its anyone affiliated with it, anybody criticizing it…its, its…I don’t know maybe they do have special mind powers that we just don’t know about or it’s the level of frustration or just how they get inside your mind and wear you down…
LB: Yup
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DO: …because that is the saddest to me because I mean its one thing to be killed which, you know, there’s the possibility that they’ve done that too and I’m going to say that’s ‘alleged’, you know I don’t think its been proven at this point that they’ve done that but they do seem to have absolutely no moral ambiguity about pushing somebody to the edge of suicide…
LB: Yup
DO: And I just don’t understand why there’s no connection…I know WE’RE making that connection, but outside of our critical community why they don’t see that this is a threat to, you know, I don’t know, the very fabric of our being because suicide whatever you’re religious beliefs is a very violent thing for people to have to deal with and that to me is so distressing and so damaging to a family to have to deal with that and you’re listing this particular case and then you have Lisa MacPherson and you have this particular case I have in my mind and there are just so many. Look at the young girl from Norway…
LB: Yup
DO: Who was in France…she wasn’t even IN Scientology!! She was just affiliated with it, it’s just too weird.
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LB: Well I’ll tell ya because they take Hubbard…it takes a long time I think and it’s certainly took for me to get out of the whole mind screw-up, I’m trying to not say ‘F’ words or anything on your show here *laughs* the ‘mind meld’ or whatever…but I will tell you that after a while you look at this thing and you just go…it took the paranoia of one man and the other’s insanity and made a religion out of it. I mean its just saying that the whole world’s after me, the psychiatrists are after me, the World Bank is after me, the great health monopolies of the world I used to write programs like that for the GO, are after me, we must destroy everybody who speaks against me and us…and that’s like insanity. And that’s like a religion now…quote/unquote. And uhh, I mean just to show you some people asked me for example related to this you know like umm I made a statement at the end of my affidavit that, about really what they want is world control and
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this is what will happen if there’s world control and I had a couple of emails from people asking me about that…do you mind if a make a couple other quotes about that from Hubbard?
DO: You talk about whatever you want Larry its your show.
LB: Ok, well one guy, a really bright guy from somewhere on enturbulation on a string about my affidavit quoted that and then he said, here’s the policy from Hubbard, so here it is just a couple of sentences. So this is from a thing called Future ORG Trends, ORG meaning organization:
January 9th 1962 by Hubbard
“You want to know what happens when you clear everybody in that neighborhood? The only thing that the Scientology center can become used for is a political center because by that time, by the time you’ve done all this you ARE the government. Once the world is ‘clear’, a nation, a state, a city or a village the Scientology organization in the area becomes the government and once this has taken place the only policy accepted as ‘valid’ is Scientology policy.”
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That means good-bye US Constitution, good-bye Magna Carta, good-bye the Constitution of Germany…Hello RPF, disconnection…umm, I mean it’s unreal I mean another little one even shorter this is another policy letter for January ’66 about Hubbards relationship to ORGs and it says, one sentence “Somebody someday will say this is illegal by then be sure the ORGs (that’s the Scientology organization) say what is legal or not.” This is, I’m telling you there is SO much stuff I didn’t make up any of these paragraphs I could talk forever. I want to go into parts of this affidavit if we get the chance later but this is his game and I’ll even tell ya you know how they talk about how there’s, you get this guy Tommy Davis who just doesn’t even have a remote clue and he’s on CNN right…
DO: Right.
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LB: And he’s talking about, “and we’re expanding and you know whatever three thousand five hundred of these…” Let me tell you something, first of all I have gotten over…I’VE gotten imagine that, over 35 emails from San Diego ORG about their ideal ORG pleading for donations even asking the public to hock their jewelry so they can buy this new building and it doesn’t have anything to do with the expansion of San Diego organization it has to do with, you know, buying that property and raising millions of dollars more from public Scientologists taking advantage of them so that can go in the coffers. Here’s a quote on the same thing the ideal ORG buildings it shows how the Vancouver organization can’t pay for their building they have all these events run by the public and it goes and this person by the name of Hillary is getting all kinds of celebrities like Kirstie Alley and all these people to go there and get people to donate and they get levels of membership for donating and they quote in their newsletter why they have these buildings and it’s a Hubbard quote from a Hubbard information letter of 25 February 1962 called “It Can Be Done,” and it says:
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“Social order today is very much in need of repair and replacement, we have people who have failed to make nothing of the enemy and who then begin to make nothing of their friends. To make nothing of the enemy requires a strong position for ourselves we can not fire from nowhere we need a base a fortress a steady firing platform.”
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