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Various Ideas
Since last Sundays raids, I have been brainstorming a bit on how I can help and general ideas to help the cause. Here are some I have so far:
Multimedia DVD's: ~~~~~~~~~~~ Well edited multimedia DVD's containing the full tech's and OT's etc. All the materials that the budding Scientologist could want or need PLUS... Our complimentary materials on what is so evil about Co$ and "Why Did They Have To Die" etc. Just put some of our already well presented material in there too. This would be in effort to move the lower ranking or complete neophyte clam, into the Free Zone, Before they have a chance to build a dependence on their auditor and org etc. If people are willing to put as much effort as needed, into scoping out the orgs and approaching people who come and go, they can offer the full tech on DVD and just hand it to the newbie scilon without any sales pitch or any other communications. The DVD's might even contain some complimentary materials to debunk the nonsense scilon beliefs themselves but that would be more aimed at the prospect with no commitment to the church, so they can see how ridiculous scilon beliefs are, before becoming one. I hope that idea would be a way to undermine the monopoly of worse than worthless information being sold to clams for hundreds of thousands of dollars. We giveaway the information Co$ sells for mega profits, and undermine them. Also, this can be a common bond and shared goal between us and Freezoners and demonstrates that we are not going after the scilon beliefs themselves but the practices of Co$ itself. Publicity & Politics: ~~~~~~~~~~~ I would like to see some speakers at the protest, or perhaps after the protests have a rally and set up a stage in a nearby park, for speakers to address the crowd. Here you can invite local politicians to speak and hear what they have to say about Co$. Many people who would not come to protest might come to a rally to receive more information. We can hear people who are ex-scilon and anti-scilon and even freezoners any SP's that are not actually Anonymous. It would be nice to leave the that kind of motivation that this might engender. Politicians would also be put under more pressure to take a stand one way or another. This is also a good opportunity to hand the incumbent politicians (if you can get them to speak) a petition. When we go out we should have an area (checkpoint) and signage set up to collect signatures on a petition, set this up near the protest, but if possible, where there is room for motorists to pull over and have helpers to bring the clipboard up to the cars. Have cameras ready there in case they are scilon stooges and try something funny, they might try to snatch the clipboard or otherwise ruin a page full of signatures. Video the incident and the car rego for publicity. Otherwise we may have to resort to one page per person, explanation (what am I signing) followed by their signature. Letter Boxing Leaflets: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Ok. This is all so obvious but hey, I don't know what is done in other parts of the world. Here in merry old Oz, the letterbox is an institution and it's well commercialized much to my chagrin. Advertising leaflets and catalogs (practically booklets) are stuffed into letterboxes to coerce, plead and persuade, by overwhelming proportions, in any letterbox that doesn't bare the words 'NO JUNK MAIL'. It's a shame this abuse, as letter-boxing is an effective low cost method of advertising for the grass roots organization and even the small (one person) business. Even without a central organization to donate to, people can buy their own ream of photocopy paper and donate some DIY effort to making their own fliers and doing the letterbox drops. It's a kind of self donating of devotion to a cause, that is actually unseen by any central authority and nobody is there to take delivery of your donation. This can produce the greatest affirmation of generosity and self worth, just knowing that you did something generous for a worthy cause, that will not go unnoticed but was not for ego stroking congratulations and external approval, that is the most satisfying kind of philanthropy. Charity & Pseudo-Collecting: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Last night I tried to set up an old laser printer to do my leaflets and as it was an 'off the side of the road job' I found it was (still is) leaving parts of the page unprinted. The software is working and the data is getting through, but obviously there is a minor (I hope) mechanical fault, such as a roller needs to be aligned or a spring needs tightening. I hope to mess around and get it working, I have downloaded the service manual and I am pretty good with gadgets. I was using a bubble jet previously, but they are expensive on ink, while toner is much cheaper, so I want the laser printer fixed. What If I can't fix it? Well I am poor and I can't afford to throw money around, otherwise I would just pay to have it fixed. That lead me to think about how I might barter with a printer repair guy. Somebody who knew what they were doing could quite likely fix the thing in minutes. But what if the printer repair guy was sympathetic to our cause? A generous person is happy to donate money to a worthwhile cause. But what about a little bit of time and expertes? I imagined I could explain that I am a poor student I am setting up the printer for use in an activist movement to fight the Co$, because we are Autonomous as well as Anonymous we have no central authority no registered as an official organisation and explain that this is all deliberate to avoid any backlash from Co$. It's also a great opportunity to get out into the community to talk to people and promote Anon while forging allegiances and publicizing the Co$ Scandal. It seems to me that this is a general idea that can apply to each of us in many such situations. Would your local college (where sign writing courses are taught) like to help us make some simple and cheap vinyl signs. If not the College what about asking a few sign writers in your area to find one who hates Scientology. Once again we don't need a central organization to solicit donations this way. It's as grass root as it can be. The donor knows that his or her donation is going to what it is intended for, because the donation is very same goods and services that they are giving us, rather than a financial sum that can be spent otherwise. It is also as tax free for us as any other charities donations, as it never produces income. Busy business, people might hate Scientology as much as the next guy but they might not be able to afford the time to be involved. Giving the activist directly what he or she needs, may be the best way for the business person to contribute. If what we are doing is right, then we should consider our cause worthy. That means there should be plenty of generous people out there, with goods and services that they are willing to help us with. What I propose is perhaps we should have a 'How To' guide for activists, on the subject of 'Canvasing Business For A Pledge Of Support' for various needs. Keep a registry of needs, both local and general across the whole movement, and also a registry of willing business who pledge to support us Who / What Kind Of Support / How Much. Send them a thank you letter and let them know we will be in contact when the need arises. When an activist needs a service or product directly related to the mission, they can first check the registry and see if there is a willing donor with a pledge that is convenient, or go DIY canvasing. If any Anon, wants to do something helpful, there is always plenty to do. If you have the gift of the gab and a nice phone manner, why not read the 'Canvasing Business For Support How To' and jump on the phone to see if you can rouse up some pledges of likely value. The 'How To' should cover a list of useful products and services to seek out like 'Printer Repairs & Supplies'. There are also various other Charities ad foundations that might look fondly on this inspiring endeavor to make Co$ accountable. There Is the Richard Dawkins Foundation, James Randi Foundation, SCICOP And Others. These are mainly anti-creationist and secular / skeptical organizations, but are sufficiently in keeping with Anon's aims to view us as a worth cause. In our particular case, seeing that we can not form our own organization to raise our funds, it might be seen as more worthy for benevolent foundations from legitimate organizations to offer funding for some specific things such as an awareness campaign, funding a law suit or hosting a lecture series for some prominent cult busters / psychologists / ex-scilons etc etc. DEC 5. Candle Light Vigil: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Here's an idea that might move the word (emotionally). On December 5 it will be the anniversary of Lisa McPherson's death. A day that we might consider as more significant than her birthday to be remembered in a sombre reflective way. Why don't we invite the world to a candle light vigil from dusk till dawn, not this time at Co$ orgs but somewhere nice in every local city. Again, let them hear from reformed Scilons and others with a message of hope for the brainwashed and trapped within Co$ and let us reaffirm or remembrance for Lisa and all those who have died either directly or indirectly by the hands of the EVIL Cult Of Scientology. !!! CHECK YOUR PUBLIC INFORMATION RECORDS !!! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Seriously Is your Government or Municipality Outing Your Private Info ???!!! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ In our previous election I was involved with a political party and volunteered to hand out leaflets outside the polling booth. I did this incidentally because I was deprived of my vote. I have not had correct details on the electoral roll for years. In fact, not since I learned of it being a public database, in which anybody who knows your name can look up your address right down to the house number. I am appalled at this and chose not to update my electoral role details when I moved to my present abode. Not giving my address details on the role, has already saved me from being found by one desperate weirdo who wouldn't leave my girl friend alone. Up until the last election it was still possible to do an absentee (away from home) vote, but John Howard decided to kick anybody who had not updated their electoral records to the Curb. This is an aside, but something of interest to a group like Anon. Can your details be found by any such government database that is on public record? Two Small Ideas For Signage and Leaflets: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ In the above mentioned election I was given about 5 Cheese board signs to put up around the polling area. These are like crinkly cardboard but are made of thin plastic instead. The material is very cheap, weather proof and makes an Ideal temporary but reusable signage stock. Anyhow, after the election I took down the signs I had put up, and I still have them, the party didn't want them back as they could not be used for three years and they might have new candidates then anyhow. The thing is, the backside of these cheese boards are still white and I also believe that the front side could be preped for painting again too. Some parties use these signs in the hundreds at election time, and you would probably only have to volunteer to take them down to be allowed to keep them. This would be much nicer than some of the scrappy, scruffy signs we have had, made from torn open cardboard boxes. So look for an election near you, and ask to collect and recycle these signs. Collect as many as you can and share them with others. :wink: Hint: If you are going to do the painting or vinyl application for all of the signs, put the word out in your local network and as for requests, so you can get the messages people want. I was once stupid enough to be involved in multi-level marketing, a money making cult that... well never mind, you know what it is. I am not all that greedy for money. Back then we had something money just can't buy... Poverty. "If it works just 10% as well as the plan shows", they would say, "you will still be comfortably well off". Well I never could prey on my friends and family and the advertising didn't do squat. It was all coercive bullshit and I honestly embarrassed to confess that. Anyhow, one of the marketing tools I used, was a large rubber stamp. It was 1/6 of the size of an A4 sheet (or a bit smaller) and it had the classic MLM blurb on it MAKE MONEY FROM HOME... No Capital Outlay, No...blah blah blah... etc etc. Now I intend to take that stamp down to the company who cuts and fixes the rubber and ask the boss if s/he hates the Co$. Perhaps first I will drop some of our literature of for them to read, give them some time to check out the websites then go back and see if they wouldn't mind helping me out with a love job. I intend to just go out and talk to people and ask them for help, share the literature and hunt for resources that we can use. Anyhow that a few ideas to chew on. Here's a little Animation I made in the GIMP. I just worked out how to do that so if I can help with animations (for the cause) for any Anons, I will have a go. [img]http://forums.randi.org/imagehosting/1181547b51ef8b038e.gif[/img] Cheers |
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Re: Various Ideas
you know, we've been blamed by sci for
being hackers on steroids, paid for by psychiatry, paid for by drug companies, with the German Secret Service, under the command of the Marcab's Fourth or Fifth anarchy communism (wait, anarchy and communism at once) naziism hmm I think we should bring cardboard spaceships, psych couches and some other stuff to parody that... do we need permits to have open flames (candles)? like for hubbard's Bday? because it seems that the cake won't happen the cake is a lie
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The members of the Brotherhood have no way of recognizing one another, and it is impossible for any one member to be aware of the identity of more than a few others. The Brotherhood cannot be wiped out because it is not an organization in the ordinary sense. Nothing holds it together except an idea which is indestructible. Comfort Eagle LULZ Edition - CAEK Original remix by me, Lyrics by me Remastered, Better Lyrics, Instrumentationified and Epic version by Enanemes |
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Re: Various Ideas
Hi Hostile. I think you might want to read this http://://www.anonsa....tology-insider
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Brainstorm Megathread!
If you have a random idea or concept that you think may be worthwhile but needs to be fleshed out, or a quirky idea you want to hear objections to, post it here. You will not be flamed, attacked as a person, or called a plant. I just ask that you not have any personal attatchment to your ideas - propose them, make your case for them, and let them be evaluated.
For those wishing to contribute to Anonymous who have critical thinking skills, I suggest regularly browsing this forum and commenting on ideas you see, making cases for or against. You can post simply that you like or dislike an idea, but please make an effort to explain your preference. Remember, this forum is for ideas. Bring your critical thinking skills, but leave egos behind. |
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Re: Brainstorm Megathread!
Ways to Identify COS plants in a crowd. Are there ways to find out who COS plants are when they are dressed as anon. I think if we could come up with some way to atleast bring attention to them we could try to keep a close tab on them so they can't do anything stupid. IE bomb threats from a pay phone. That sort of thing. Cause I was watching bbc panorama and they used the bomb threat tactic against tom Sweeney
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Re: Brainstorm Megathread!
1. Wise Beard Man. He tried to do a 'live' chat but it became swamped with too much traffic, and lots of trolls. I think he's wonderful for 'firing up the troops' so to speak, and he really got people to behave themselves as I think a lot of people respect him. Most people post on more than one forum. What if we had a thread, on all these same type forums, dedicated to asking him questions, best questions are then submitted to him, and he tries to answer them 'live'. I think it's not that big a deal, but it would be a lot of fun, especially if he could do another 'live' broadcast before March 15th. I think it would also be much easier for him to get to answer people's questions, and cut down a little on his email account being swamped by everyone asking the same questions over and over.
2. Dancing with the Stars. Yup. I said it. :oops: I know. Priscilla Presley (also a Scientologist) was chosen. How wrong would it be to ask Anonymous members (worldwide) to vote on DWTS to make sure she doesn't make it too far in the show. :lol: Mods-If this doesn't exactly fit in this category, feel free to delete. |
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Re: Brainstorm Megathread!
I have two ideas, but I haven't had time to really flesh them out. Here they are:
1. Start an online petition to submit to the Senate committee that oversees the IRS requesting the review and revocation of the CoS's tax exempt status. Pro: It would be a way to show the size of the movement to the powers that be, and a way for those who can't show up at the protests to have their numbers recognized, as well as getting our message to the people who can do something about it. Con: You have to put your real name on a petition. 2. We are in the middle of campaign season here in the US, with the highest office in the land up for grabs. We need to write letters to the candidates and make sure they are aware of this issue, and find out their stances on the Church of Scientology, its criminal activities, and its tax exempt status. If we make this a big enough issue, if we show that there are a LOT of voting Americans who are concerned about this -- all we would need is for one of the candidates to mention this issue during a speech or debate to get the mainstream media interested. Once the mainstream media is interested we will get more than a throwaway blurb on a slow news day. We will get in depth coverage, and the general public will hear more than "steroid fueled hackers". This will not become a major campaign issue, most likely, but we do need to make sure that the candidates are informed about the dangerous organization that is operating right here in our country with the blessing of the IRS. And we need to make sure that they know that one of the most successfully marketed viral protests in history is associated with this issue, and that any candidate who speaks in our favor is likely to get a huge boost among the hard to reach younger voters by supporting our movement. Just a couple of things that occurred to me - dunno how helpful or feasible they will be though. |
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Re: Brainstorm Megathread!
This is a bit of a crazy one but essentially reversing Scientologies traditional tactics on themselves.
What if everyone who has ever been hurt by Scientology in any way sued them all at once. I reckon this would fuck them up good. We would need to get an idea of there assets first and how big a chunk this could take out of them to see whether it is winnable but the results would be: A massive waste of there funds Massive media coverage Also remember that why Scientology traditionally wins in the courts is because they counter sue you a million times over. If we slapped enough legal cases on them, they wouldn't have enough resources to counter sue. The big question is how big amount of legal bullshit can they take and can we feasibly swamp them. If it was actually possible to implement this plan this could be the nail in there coffin. However, I don't have enough knowledge of American courts, Scientologys assets or the amount of people we could gather up against them to give you any real assessment of this idea's feasibility. :guyfawkes: |
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Re: Brainstorm Megathread!
Anyone think trying to get the US military to support Anon would be a good idea?
The reasons I think we might have a case are thus: A) The CoS has conducted ops against the IRS before, so I imagine that at least some people in the government might be interested in getting back at them for the loss of face. B) The CoS, from what I've read elsewhere on this forum, has been having its ministers treat, and presumably attempt to convert, soldiers coming home from Iraq. A large number of PTSD-suffering veterans suddenly going without medication or therapy is probably be something the Army would want to avoid. C) The CoS seems to have the habit of attempting to assimilate any organization or place they are able to gain a foothold in. It might be in our interest to get the military on our side before they do. So, good idea or bad idea? |
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Re: Brainstorm Megathread!
Just throwing out a crazy idea I had about raising awareness.
I came across a free game today called "ICED" which was a 3D game created to raise awareness about immigration conditions in the US. Now the game sucked, but it occurred to me that Anonymous might be able to do something similar. I'm thinking something simple, such as a flash game, to appeal to the casual online gaming crowd who aren't too likely to be aware of this stuff already. It could be a puzzle (or even RPG-esque) game where you need to earn money to gain ranks within the CoS, and your rewards at each stage could be based on the Scientology documents we have access to. I think if it was even mildly fun** we could distribute it via Newgrounds or RapidShare to raise awareness, and it would help to trivialise the 'intellectual property' of the church. Obviously this is a medium-long term goal and would require sufficient nerd-power from the ranks of Anonymous. I'm sure there are at least a few who would be able and willing? It's hard to believe otherwise considering the quantity of meme-based flash toons/games I've seen X-) ** This is of course the challenge of making something like this a success, and I think part of the key to it would be extensive peer review during development. Events to date have shown the effectiveness of the collective thinking of Anonymous. I'm sure that as a group we could come up with something enjoyable & informative (if we could keep the memes to a minimum ;) ). Oh, also regarding the above post about the army, just giving my 2c on that if I may. I would say that the military would have no problem with returned soldiers stopping their therapy/medication, because if anything, the army will be helping to pay for it. I'd also expect there to be plenty of CoS members in the military given their similar organizational structure etc. Also certainly at this stage of the game I can't see the military being able to back Anonymous without most of the eyebrows in the country being raised. Anonymous is still a juvenile terrorist group to the majority of the country I think. |
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I don't think it is wrong to deny someone "honors" when they are actively partcipating in an organization that is harming people the way the CO$ is. I refuse to watch a TV show, or see a movie that has a "star" in it that donates so much money to the CO$. It is my right. By going to see a TC movie I am in effect making it possible for him to donate money to the CO$. It is an act of conciousness for me, it is my money. I decide where to spend it. I choose not to spend it on things that will contribute, however indirectly, to the CO$. If Pricilla Presly chooses to give her money to the CO$, I can also choose to make people aware of that and decide for themselves whether or not they wish to giveher HONORS for participating in such an unconscionable organization. And, out of memory for THE KING who said, of the cult, "all they want is my money" and ran from them, I say do what needs to be done to bring public awareness to the issue, what THE KING thought and what his wife and daughter are now involved in. Shame. When TC's new movie opens I will be out on the public sidewalk in front of the biggest theater with a sign that reads, "By seeing this movie you are indirectly donating to the Church of $cientology." As far as the military is concerned, as a group, no they cannot "join us". However as individuals they are certainly free to speak up. The first amendment applies to them as well. It's what they fight for, the Constitution, (such as it is after Bushitler has finished with it.) |
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One of the way the Co$ attacks people is through vigorous (and frivolous, and fraudulent) enforcement of it's trademarks. What are ways we could disarm them of this weapon?
1) genericide: by making a trademark become a generic word the claim to trademark is weakened. It is important to not genercize it in a positive way (like Bayer's TM Asprin). It is also important that you don't use TMs commercially, as that will be a valid excuse for Co$ to attack. Use the word 'scientology' anonymously as a slang adjective. Repeat with other TMs. "Man my prof fair gamed me. He totally dianeticked us by burying us in assignments on friday." Co$'s trademark claims are tenuous anyway - there is evidence that the transfer to RTC wasn't legal, as well as it being bullshit that a corporation is holding the trademarks that a 'religion' is using. 2) scoop up jargon: sure, Scientology and Dianetics are TMed, but 'suppressive person' isn't, nor is 'xenu'. If someone were to make a commercial site that TMed 'Xenu' (and had nothing to do with Scientology) they might be able to sue the Co$ the next time they run the OT3 course. Better then a commercial site - another 'religion'. There's a free thought organization called the 'Church of Reality' that is not only has tax-free status, but is claiming TM to 'Reality'. The absurd is possible (witness Co$) |
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