Brainstorm Megathread!

Originally Posted by noman2313

Unless martial law has been declared, the military is not allowed to get involved in civil or political actions. They are there to protect all US citizens, and they can't take sides.

Right :!: I'm soooo pissed now. :evil: I was told the military was there to protect all Australian citizens. :mrgreen:

Originally Posted by anonj

This is a great idea! Maybe we should collect signatures IRL, during the demonstrations and on other occasions and get non-anonymous people to sign as well.

From the first post ^^^^^^

Originally Posted by Skepticus

When we go out we should have an area (checkpoint) and signage set up to collect signatures on a petition, set this up near the protest, but if possible, where there is room for motorists to pull over and have helpers to bring the clipboard up to the cars. Have cameras ready there in case they are scilon stooges and try something funny, they might try to snatch the clipboard or otherwise ruin a page full of signatures. Video the incident and the car rego for publicity. Otherwise we may have to resort to one page per person, explanation (what am I signing) followed by their signature.

Originally Posted by anonj

With enough names it should be near-impossible for the Scientologists to try find the anons. Then send the complete lists to politicians etc.

Wouldn't matter if it was only being sent to politicians would it?

How about making a play or movie, something along the lines of, say, "Rent"? We could use it to raise awareness, and use proceeds to help out people who've left the CoS.

...The part about the military was actually just me being in tin-foil-hat mode after having a random thought about the Sea Org being vaguely similar to NOD. :tinfoil: We probably don't need to worry too much about them, but I'd still like to get some sort of outreach to the veterans, if only to say we tried.

Exactly! That's what I was thinking. After Feb 10th, she would be the first public casualty of the Anonymous' power against the clan. You just know it would mess with their psychy. :lol:

Originally Posted by mortified

I am ALL ABOUT this idea. The only things that makes celebrities useful to the CoS are their unwavering fan bases. Granted, Priscilla Presley is a pretty dead target (safe to say that EVERYONE on DWTS is scrambling for attention due to waning "careers") but if she gets voted off quickly by the sheer force of the internets, other scifag celebs might start to worry about the effect their "faith" is having on their respective images.

Originally Posted by RedRobin

Exactly! That's what I was thinking. After Feb 10th, she would be the first public casualty of the Anonymous' power against the clan. You just know it would mess with their psychy. :lol:

RedRobin & Mortified, With all due respects, there is a suspicion within this movement, approaching certainty, that a dedicated anti-Co$ critic and protester Shawn Lonsdale was framed for his own suicide a couple of days ago. The suspect with the prime motive for probable foul play, is the Church of $cientology, particularly in the wake of our recent protest. As we speak the scourge is gloating at their 'big win'. Voting Scientologists off a 'reality' TV show would be akin to attacking the Taliban with pea shooters.

If the producers of DWTS are going to have Scientologists on their show and it creates ratings for them, they don't care who wins or looses, as they win anyway. I understand that some of their income (if not a large amount), is generated by charging you for the 'privilege' of voting. Would that be right? If you are watching the show and voting the contestants on or off, you are increasing their ratings and their income for promoting the career of famous Scientologists. Remember in loony land, there is no such thing as bad publicity. Lisa Marie will benefit from the publicity either way, and so will the Co$. Your best bet is to boycott the show altogether and spend that time doing something more direct in this war. I'm sorry if that sounds hard on your idea, as I know your heart is in the right place, but I would hate to think you were doing something that you believe would damage the Co$, when indirectly you were actually supporting it.

Besides, if you watch DWTS just for the entertainment, then I think you might find better dancers with genuine talent for the art, in your local community. Why not go and see a live performance and support someone who deserves the break. Honestly, the idea of these shows that pander to celebrity for it's own sake, really are just so much pulp fodder, for the lowest common denominator. Who said that a former soppie star or singer was likely to be good at dancing? Who wants to watch rank novices, doing something they have no particular talent for, just because they were famous for something else? :roll: I say to all: Please, boycott DWTS, at least while they are promoting Scientologist 'performers'.

One thing that needs to be addressed is the way they get into events. I was at a big air show last year and they had a stand there. We spoke to some of them until a 'handler' came over and told them 'move away from these people', then videoed us.

We called the show organisers when we got home and they had no idea $ci was there - they'd used a different name to get in and the organisers couldn't even work out from their list which name they used.

I'm thinking, if any Anon goes to any sort of event where they're likely to set up a stand, they should make sure they have the organiser's number so it can be reported DURING the event. Then they can check it out. We were told they would not have been given a pitch if anyone had known who they were. Obviously we can't do leafleting or anything unless we wore our masks, which wouldn't be practical. But by the time someone gets home & complains, like we did, the damage is already done.

Re: the military: Can we send info to our local military bases, to the attention of whoever might head up the chaplain-type stuff, warning about CoS tactics etc? Despite the fact that vets off their meds would be cheaper for the Army, having vets distracted from their mission would not. Milifags, does CoS teaching directly go against Armed Forces protocols?

Re: Dancing with the stars. We don't have to watch the show to have an effect. Plenty of discussion boards/forums are devoted to DWTS, and more will pop up as the show gets closer. What do you guys think about commenting on those boards, and on any news stories that cover DWTS, saying you won't be watching and why?
DWTS forums:
http://abc.go.com/primetime/dancingwith ... &cat=23170
http://www.buddytv.com/dancing-with-the-stars.aspx
http://www.tvguide.com/tvshows/dancing- ... rds/191470
http://www.tv.com/dancing-with-the-star ... orums.html

We may get some pushback from regular forum users at those sites but I think they deserve to know where Priscilla's $ is going and that they help support it.

Also: contact ABC and tell them you won't be watching; and contact the sponsors of the show to tell them the same.

I understand that in the light of the Lonsdale death this seems like small potatoes- but every bit of awareness-raising helps.

Just lobbing my two monkeys into the barrel.

Multimedia DVDs & flash game with secret dox aren't ideas I'd endorse, if only for the simple reason of copyright, even if the church can't actively sue the distributors due to anonymity, it can spread it around that we're flaunting the law, and any crime, no matter how trivial (speaking relatively and in context of course), is aids in our collective pool: People just aren't going to want to dive in.

The game might work though on a different level, puzzle solving/sim with the goal of making money by exploiting people, building a corporation up, recruiting members, etc, etc, maybe work something in about silencing reporters who come to investigate, keep it humorous and light to begin with, and a little darker as the game goes on. Upon completion, something along the lines of "This is just harmless fun, but the strategies and abuses in this game are practices employed in the real world by the Church of Scientology. To them, it's all fair game, and it's not harmless, or fun. Want to know more? [link to website]" May well be a flawed concept though, feedback?

I really advise against letterboxing, near enough everyone hates junk mail, and very few people take it seriously no matter what it is, handing out leaflets shows people that you're there to actually inform them of something, no matter how trivial it is, you're there making the effort, doing the footwork, and handing these things out on your own time. Yeah, it requires effort, free time, and determination, but it'll go a lot further than junk mail, no matter the intention.

Fliers are also good, but that's been going on for a while and shall likely continue for a long while more.

About all I've seen so far that I've got any real input about that isn't just a thumbs up, or hasn't been said already.

I just saw [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qx8pWqWMz54:1sfae2jp]Gumy's e-meter video[/url:1sfae2jp].

If the e-meter really works just like this, what is stopping some anons from taking some ohmmeters and doing their own 'audits' at protests? It might be especially helpful for people who have just started on dianetics and are not too deep into the church.

An Anonymous Adresses Dave Miscavige vid on the tubes.

They've already done it with Tom Cruise:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xf6MbrJ-T2w
Before the video invokes Godwin's Law and accusations of homosexuality and starts to fail, it makes some valid points about the silly statements Cruise has made, and statements made by others. Dave Miscavige is know to be an extremely paranoid man, and a direct adress to him would surely make him collapse even further. He is the figurehead, so if he crumbles, it will aid greatly in the collapse of the CoS.

DO's:
*Sum up a list of statements Dave Miscavige has made that can be used against him and a list of his "crimes".
*State the legal consequences his actions can have for him.
* Optional: A bit of trolling about his length, the fact that he cannot do anything about Anonymous and that he has fled onto the Freewinds because he is a paranoid coward.(keep it short, do not turn it into an insult rant.)

DON'T's:
*Death threats and other such illegal nonsense.
*Exaggerated accusations, name-calling and other things that will make the vid look juvenile.
*Using a robotic filter that completely screws the hearability of the message.

Agreed.

Take down the figurehead.

Ok lot's of posts here. And I am not sure if anyone else thought of it so here goes:

This is an idea that will not work if anyone in $ci is aware of it, however, I can say that it might possibly encourage more people to "snap out of it" so to speak. It is NOT illegal, NOT violent and does not harm any animals. I did some research into the "tech" as it were, and discovered some things about it's hold on people, and the basis of much of it is autohypnosis. The individual essentially goes into a trance, and the tech is basically programming the person. I might know a way to insert a meme into the programming. I am still researching, but I think I have a very viable way to get the meme's across without resorting to subliminal videos. Basically, imagine your mind, everyday is constantly processing data...be it street noise, dogs barking, whatever. Your conscious mind filters out that data as unimportant. The same goes for people who are indoctrinated, however, their filter has been altered by the tech so getting a point across will not register and will be ignored. Think of bypassing the normal conscious filters, thereby allowing one to "implant" an idea, or meme, which could serve to open a particular individual's mind and have them question the tech.

i mildly goofed, and started a new thread instead of posting here.

I know i've seen one or two people mention this, but is it retarded to suggest adapting it as a wide operation?

Having some anon contact orgs, get pamphlets get a personality test, see movies, and otherwise appear interested in the cult, but refusing to do anything that requires money... With care, you could probably avoid being namefagged doing this, and if you where a mask on protest days, they'll really have nothing to go by (unless you have a noticeably unusual height or something).

I see three points to doing this on a large scale- It would waste church time and resources, helping downstat them. It also could not be construed as harasshment- nor could they do anything to counter it., without shutting their doors to everyone.

If we're polite, diplomatic, and come up with suggested conversation plans, we might be able to plant some seeds of doubt in lower ranking scilons. Ask why services cost so much, ask some of the simple questions that are hard to answer- like is it a religion, or a scientific, medical technique? Simple question, that i still haven't heard scilon's give a decent answer to. It can't be both.

And this would probably help work to some of our other goals- we might stumble on some information, we'd create more paranoia among higher ranks... get some lulzworthy answers to questions.

It'd be risky (I defintly wouldn't suggest someone who is already doing risky stuff doing this), but I think it might be a good idea if we could do it right.

Target the Scientology celeb fan forums. These probably contain mostly ten-year olds posting Tom Cruise slash, but generating a negative buzz there could help in getting the press agents of said stars to advise their clients to create some distance with the Church. Concerned fan letters are also a plus. Remember, pretend to be a concerned fan. Outright negativity will probably provoke rabid fan mode, and as much fun as trolling rabid fans is, we're here to get them on our side.

REad this comment on exscn.net. It it were done well...

Imagine someone doing a public demonstration of what a Sec Check is like. Put that on YouTube! Seriously.

just some insight and suggestions...
DVDs ...please do not duplicate thier items. a good bio of anonymous content to explain the reasons of anon plays better at home than helping leg up a budding Scientogist with free lessons. The cost of these lessons is a deterant to moving up and paying more and allows a lull in thought to move the cult out of their pocket. Small amounts of comparison to a cult placed in the dvd as insight allows realizations to become obvious to the viewer. To have in hand...any or part of their copyright items is to invite the police and their lawyers as is recorded in the past.
Canvasing businesses allows for video of your face. You only use the anon face for the events...or you may find yourself with the police at a store front thinking you are going to rob the place while wearing a mask. No one is anon.
There is no product movement or money to be made from ANON. Thank YOU anon for your donation of anything to the cause. I want to bring Delicous Cake and peanuts for the screaming squirrels and long cat.
you said:
"Seriously Is your Government or Municipality Outing Your Private Info"
sorry ...this is off topic and does not concern anon. anon has nothing private. one divided by zero.
Postering telephone post at street corners allow many to see information and keeps you anon.
L8R...

Originally Posted by Dropd4s