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Old 04-29-2008, 09:48 AM   #1 (link to here)
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Freewinds sealed and blue asbestos confirmed

*dig!* Digg - Freewinds Docked due to Blue Asbestos *dig!* This needs to be frontpage and center.


Saw this over at OCMB

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This just showed up in the local newspaper today (sorry if already
posted):

Scientology's Freewinds hides information about presence of asbestos. - NeoGAF


[START]
WILLEMSTAD: During refurbishing and reparatory work, which involved
removing the ceiling and panelling on cruise ship Freewinds, blue
asbestos was released and ended up in the ventilation system.


Freewinds' captain did not report this when it's own personnel were
working on the ship on the Mathey warf in Otrobanda. The Curacao
Drydock Company (CDM), where the ship was taken for reparatory work on
the hull, heard from the surveyor that there may be asbestos on the
ship. The captain acknowledged the incident and said that after the
incident Freewinds had some investigation done. Keeping the incident
quiet became more noticeable when it turned out that the 40-year-old
ship contatined blue asbestos.
The question is whether or not the blue asbestos dust, which can cause
cancer, can be removed from the ship. The CDM has stopped all work on
the ship. The ship was sealed and isolated and experts will
investigate and measure the presence of asbestos dust in the hull and
surrounding areas. Commissioners Eugene Rhuggenaath (Economic Affairs)
and Humphrey Davelaar (Public Health) said on Friday.


CDM interim director Frank Esser, deputy head of the Department of
Labour Affairs Christiene van der Biezen were accompanied by two
inspectors and head of the health Department Tico Ras. Samples taken
from the panelling last week by inspectors that were sent to the
Netherlands showed that they contained significant amounts of blue
asbestos. After an extraordinary meeting, the Executive Council
decided to inform the public in general about the incident to avoid
remours and panic.

The CDM personnel were also informed via the media because it was
impossible to gather all the workers Friday evening to personally give
them the information.
[END]

Take care.
Operation Clambake Message Board :: View topic - New article about abestos on the Freewinds

Scientology's Freewinds hides information about presence of asbestos. - NeoGAF - thread with picture of article

Affidavit from Lawrence Woodcraft about the abestos (from 2001)
Lawrence Woodcraft Affidavit about Asbestos on the Freewinds - January 24, 2001

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Radar Online runs a story about the Failwinds.
Fresh Intelligence : Radar Online : Scandal on the Lido Deck: Scientology Cruise Ship Exposing Passengers to Asbestos?


Mouthpiece Karen Pouw responds to the story that Radar Online wrote

Fresh Intelligence : Radar Online : Cancer on the Lido Deck? Scientology Responds

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Old 04-29-2008, 09:49 AM   #2 (link to here)
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Re: Freewinds/Blue Abestos confirmed

Hah! Pwnt!
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Old 04-29-2008, 09:52 AM   #3 (link to here)
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Re: Freewinds sealed and blue abestos confirmed

Yet another Epic Fail from our friendly neighbourhood church of scientology.
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Old 04-29-2008, 09:52 AM   #4 (link to here)
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Re: Freewinds sealed and blue abestos confirmed

I have been wondering for some time if this is not the reason so many OTs in the Sea Org end up with cancer at relatively young ages (40s-50s). And that one reason they are not "allowed" or receive medical treatment early on when their cancers are treatable is because the Cult is afraid of Drs catching on that the patient may have been exposed to a serious carcinogen. So DM decides that it is "better" to just let them die off.

I hope this story gets some legs. Maybe Tony Ortega over at the Village Voice? (hint, hint)
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Old 04-29-2008, 09:56 AM   #5 (link to here)
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Re: Freewinds sealed and blue abestos confirmed

holy fuckin win!

if the news isnt interested in worldwide protests, maybe theyll run with this one. theyve been housing people on that death trap for decades.
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Old 04-29-2008, 10:00 AM   #6 (link to here)
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lil' davey lost his ship. Awww.
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Old 04-29-2008, 10:04 AM   #7 (link to here)
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removing the asbestos will be very costly, if possible.

also, while that is done (by qualified professionals, therefore people outside the cult) 10,000 other H&S problems will most likely be found.

I doubt the ships going anywhere again.

optimistic, but still likely I think.
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Old 04-29-2008, 10:05 AM   #8 (link to here)
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OH LAWDY, got to love the pic from the paper in that link.

Scientology boat horked and in other news...
Furry Friend Adoption? ROFL (lower right hand corner)
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Old 04-29-2008, 10:07 AM   #9 (link to here)
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Ahhhh.... finally; third-party verification that this hazard (that a lot of people have spoken about in the past) does indeed exist. Even better -- that they knew about it.

That is one giant-assed can of liability you just heard opening.
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Old 04-29-2008, 10:07 AM   #10 (link to here)
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Re: Freewinds sealed and blue abestos confirmed

Major.
Now it will be prevented from discharging illegal waste as well.
Major.
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Old 04-29-2008, 10:07 AM   #11 (link to here)
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Blue Asbestos:

I iz in ur Freewinds cauzing ur tumorz.

Still, this gives us a chance, now that all Scilons are safely off the ship is to follow up on suggestion I made before and KILL IT WITH... oh, yeah...asbestos.

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Old 04-29-2008, 10:09 AM   #12 (link to here)
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Re: Freewinds sealed and blue abestos confirmed

A paraphrase of the new fund raising letter to be sent out by David Miscavige,
the leader of the amazing shrinking scam of scientology

Dear $cientologist,

Because the word $cientologist has fallen into such disrepute,. and in an effort to try telling the absolute truth for a change, I will from here on refer to $cientologists as 'rubes'.. okay?

Attention all rubes, because this scam is only about getting your money and retaining as much of your money as possible, and yes it is very expensive to pay lawyers to lie on our behalf to silence those who do not believe Hubbard's lies, and yes we were too cheap to procure a proper vessel for perpetrating the fraud of rube-ology upon your enfeebled minds, and yes we got a good a deal on this rustbucket because the previous owners knew it wold be impossible to remove the asbestos, and YES we knew that the only good rubeologist in scientology is a dead scientologist, because dead people can not sue us for fraud.

So we purchased an old ship cheap that was filled with deadly blue asbestos...and like all bad news that might affect the health of a scientologist we covered it up, because L Ron Hubbard said "If it is true for you it is true for you". So simple, if you do not know about this toxic dust that slowly kills you it will not be true for you, geddit? If you don't you will be sent to cramming at your OWN expense. This is how we keep scientology working. Any questions?

" Yes, I have a question "

MAA, declare that person an SP and throw them over the side.

Anyone else have a question?

So after hiding this toxic poison for decades, we now must induce every rube who has ever been on the Freewinds..to do the Purification rundown at their own expense, and yes, you see we have no liability because we did not force you to take your next breath, you literally, "pulled it in" - all those billions of microscopic razors to slowly and silently destroy the cell walls in your lungs, and yes, ironic isn't it, that in your old age as you wheeze and gasp for breath after the asbestos has destroyed your lungs, you will laugh along with me about the name.. ha ha, they even had the nerve to call it the "Free Winds"... while you beg for your next breath....

Oh and rubes, we need you to donate more money so we can buy another ship to take you beyond the 10 mile limit where we can really practice scientology without interference of the supressive psychiatric controlled governments of the world.

Send your check, money order, credit cards, stock certificates, property titles TODAY to

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"11. No one on the ship knew anything about asbestos, nor did they care. I
thought to myself, the Church has been tricked into buying a cruise ship for
$11 million that is a total liability, that is so full of lethal asbestos, the
only option is to sink it in deep water. If asbestos remains permanently wet
it is not dangerous, it is dangerous when dried out and flaking, releasing
fibers in the air that are then breathed in. To me this seemed a daunting,
enormous problem. How could the church possibly bring their public
parishioners to this ship and expose them to such a hazardous substance. I
thought that the legal liability alone would terrify them (As a new Sea Org.
member I didn't know at this time the scientologists cannot sue the Church).
Around this time Bitty Miscaviage visited the ship. She was the Church
executive with overall responsibility for the ship project. I went to her and
took copies of the ships blueprints and showed her the full extent of asbestos
on the ship. At first she was calm, but as I further explained the dangers,
she begun to realize that it was a problem. We had a meeting to discuss the
problem of asbestos. Steve Kisacky stated that L. Ron Hubbard doesn't state in
policy that asbestos is dangerous; he only states that fiberglass is dangerous
and therefore we are only removing the fiberglass. In fact, the dock next to
the Freewinds was piled high with fiberglass that had been removed by Sea Org
members. It was explained to me that the ship was being remodeled only
according to the written policies and "advices" of L. Ron Hubbard. Since
Hubbard had been in the US Navy and had then founded the Sea Org and had run a
fleet of ships, he knew everything about ships. If asbestos was dangerous, he
would have written this somewhere. Also Hubbard knew everything about cancer.
He had written that cancer was caused by the mind and specifically second
dynamic aberration (problems with relationships). I was told that people only
get sick if they go into "agreement" with being sick. As the ship was going to
be filled with "operating thetans" doing the highest level in Scientology (OT
8) nothing was going to make them sick. I was being a "wog"
(non-scientologist) worrying about a little thing like asbestos."
During mid to late January

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Old 04-29-2008, 10:14 AM   #13 (link to here)
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Re: Freewinds sealed and blue abestos confirmed

Someone better at it than me should edit the Wikipedia page
Freewinds - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 04-29-2008, 10:15 AM   #14 (link to here)
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Re: Freewinds sealed and blue abestos confirmed

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Major.
Now it will be prevented from discharging illegal waste as well.
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The ship has been SEALED

The freewinds has been SHUT DOWN.

There will be no more Freewinds...

Just lawsuits and greedy lawyers crawling out from under their desks where they have been hiding from scientology for decades, while telling us how courageous they are to seek justice for those hoaxed by the dwarf's scam.
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Old 04-29-2008, 10:16 AM   #15 (link to here)
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Lawrence Woodcraft said it years ago! That's what happens when you don't listen to the English!
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