Jason Beghe to Scientology Mouthpiece Tommy Davis: 'You're Losing Your Soul'

beghe is samuel l jackson's wallet.

Badmotherfucker. BMF

This is an odd place for me to be. My ex and I divorced over Scientology. At the time, I thought it was the worst thing that could happen. My opinion, based on life events, has radically changed.

I don't think of my ex as being a bad person fundamentally. Over time, I have learned to see that having the "crutch" of Scientology was so vitally important to him then that there was really no room for anything else.

I see Tommy Davis or even Mike Rinder and think that they are just different examples of the same thing. I was reading someone's story last night and was a bit startled by some of his descriptions of people. Ray Mithoff and Ronnie Miscavaige were both described as "The nicest people you will ever meet". It is difficult to reconcile that description with the bad things we hear and read about, but maybe it is the more accurate description.

I understand why Bixbear would welcome Tommy Davis into the real world with open arms. I think that this is one of those things that "you really need to be there" to fully understand.

You knew it was comin................

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Originally Posted by felinonymous

This is an odd place for me to be. My ex and I divorced over Scientology. At the time, I thought it was the worst thing that could happen. My opinion, based on life events, has radically changed.

I don't think of my ex as being a bad person fundamentally. Over time, I have learned to see that having the "crutch" of Scientology was so vitally important to him then that there was really no room for anything else.

I see Tommy Davis or even Mike Rinder and think that they are just different examples of the same thing. I was reading someone's story last night and was a bit startled by some of his descriptions of people. Ray Mithoff and Ronnie Miscavaige were both described as "The nicest people you will ever meet". It is difficult to reconcile that description with the bad things we hear and read about, but maybe it is the more accurate description.

I understand why Bixbear would welcome Tommy Davis into the real world with open arms. I think that this is one of those things that "you really need to be there" to fully understand.

yeah well

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Originally Posted by ANON E MOOSE

beghe is samuel l jackson's wallet.

Badmotherfucker. BMF

BAMF: Bad-Ass Mother Fucker!!

Originally Posted by Unlisted

I was shocked seeing how he looked in that interview, he looked so defeated, almost a half-assed attempt of defending scientology like as if he wasn't completely metally present due to fatigue/dehydration, eyes looking right, left and totally unconvincing.

I hope he'll wake up, but it's going to be difficult as his mum, little brother and step-dad are "lifetime members" or whatever of IAS, dunno about his dad but

Tommy it's possible to live life without the clutches of the CO$ holding you back.
You can go to College/Uni and pick up from where left off, it's possible.
There's so much more media and public attention focusing on the church of scientology that it would be difficult for them to hold you back if you wanted to leave.
Currently you do not lookhealthy, you do not sound healthy.

Geez. Would YOU want Anne Archer, poster girl for the CCHR, as your mother? I shudder.

That makes me feel even more sorry for him. Except, you know, running the Celeb Centre has built him up some pretty bad mojo, since every Celeb they mindfucked probably drew in money and fans of that celeb for the Cult way out of proportion to someone running a normal Org branch.

To be honest, in her heyday, I would have hit Anne Archer hard.

But regardless, I am now feel I should buy a second copy of Monkey Shines. Come on, Mr. B, want me to buy a third? You know what to do! Enturbulate MOAR!

Do ya'll think the postcard brigade should add Tommy to the list?

Originally Posted by tonguetied

Do ya'll think the postcard brigade should add Tommy to the list?

Absolutely.

“He was saying there’s no Disconnection. That’s a fucking lie. I’m not even a declared suppressive person, and they’ve all disconnected from me,” Beghe says about his former friends in the church. “They kicked my four-year-old son out of a fucking Scientology school. There’s your church.” -Beghe

"That's fucking exactly what happened, Dude! That makes me fucking SICK!"

Jason, this is for you:

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“He was saying there’s no Disconnection. That’s a fucking lie. I’m not even a declared suppressive person, and they’ve all disconnected from me,” Beghe says about his former friends in the church. “They kicked my four-year-old son out of a fucking Scientology school. There’s your church.”

Honestly, from what I heard about Scientology schools- I would be more grateful than otherwise.

For me, this is simple.

Yes, Tommy Davis looked abused.

However:

I am not willing to be open-armed about this.

CoS management are committing criminal acts at an astounding rate and those acts are directed towards other people who are made to suffer. It's not about retribution, it's about justice towards the victims. Tommy Davis babbling on CNN and lying is merely stupidity. It's what he *may* be doing in terms of fair game, hurting other CoS members and illegal cover-ups that concern me.

I will be considerate towards Mike Rinder, Tommy Davis etc. when they call up the FBI for immunity, testify in court or do something else to redeem themselves. Otherwise, they belong in a jail cell until they understand that society cannot tolerate that level of violence towards others.

I agree they are under incredible pressure to conform. The same situation is true for schoolyard bullies and anyone else who finds themselves in a malignant group.

The Nuremberg trials did not allow "they made me do it" as a defense against war crimes. It was a mitigating circumstance ONLY [and we're talking here about a whole country--no wog world to flee to] that lessened the sentence--not an excuse.

Tory came clean and *said* she spammed for CoS. Her honesty is what makes everyone want to enfold her. Her understanding of what she did, and how that affected people is the reason we can be pretty sure she won't repeat the behaviour.

Jason Beghe didn't throw people into RPF to be tortured. He wasn't management. His only "bad act" was that of belonging to a group that he later found out was abusive. Then he blew. He courageously went public and actively discourages other people from joining. That is his redemption. That's why people think he's such an amazing fellow.

Until someone stops their behavior and does what they can to fix it and make reparations to the victims there is no guarantee they won't repeat that behavior outside of those circumstances.

It's okay to make mistakes and sometimes to be ignorant of what's going on. It's NOT okay to deliberately harm others or be willfully blind to abuse. When it happens, as humans we must do our best to make that up to them and the society we live in then move forward.

There's a line between compassion and gullibility.

Originally Posted by AnonOutreach

For me, this is simple.

Yes, Tommy Davis looked abused.

However:

I am not willing to be open-armed about this.

CoS management are committing criminal acts at an astounding rate and those acts are directed towards other people who are made to suffer. It's not about retribution, it's about justice towards the victims. Tommy Davis babbling on CNN and lying is merely stupidity. It's what he *may* be doing in terms of fair game, hurting other CoS members and illegal cover-ups that concern me.

I will be considerate towards Mike Rinder, Tommy Davis etc. when they call up the FBI for immunity, testify in court or do something else to redeem themselves. Otherwise, they belong in a jail cell until they understand that society cannot tolerate that level of violence towards others.

I agree they are under incredible pressure to conform. The same situation is true for schoolyard bullies and anyone else who finds themselves in a malignant group.

The Nuremberg trials did not allow "they made me do it" as a defense against war crimes. It was a mitigating circumstance ONLY [and we're talking here about a whole country--no wog world to flee to] that lessened the sentence--not an excuse.

Tory came clean and *said* she spammed for CoS. Her honesty is what makes everyone want to enfold her. Her understanding of what she did, and how that affected people is the reason we can be pretty sure she won't repeat the behaviour.

Jason Beghe didn't throw people into RPF to be tortured. He wasn't management. His only "bad act" was that of belonging to a group that he later found out was abusive. Then he blew. He courageously went public and actively discourages other people from joining. That is his redemption. That's why people think he's such an amazing fellow.

Until someone stops their behavior and does what they can to fix it and make reparations to the victims there is no guarantee they won't repeat that behavior outside of those circumstances.

It's okay to make mistakes and sometimes to be ignorant of what's going on. It's NOT okay to deliberately harm others or be willfully blind to abuse. When it happens, as humans we must do our best to make that up to them and the society we live in then move forward.

There's a line between compassion and gullibility.

I see what you're saying, but I disagree because I think its not just black and white. These people are brainwashed. They think they are doing good. They think they are defending the world against something evil, especially someone like Tommy who's indoctrination began the day he was born. Why some can wake up on their own and some cannot is the mystery.
I don't believe they should be ostracized before they have time to reboot their brain to be able to adjust to the real world.

I often wonder if the "worst" scientologists can later become the best critics due to their innate enthusiasm for anything they are passionate about.

Originally Posted by orly

...Now, how do we get Tommy Davis to blow?

Well, according to Beghe, he probably hasn't yet reached OTIII, right?

All we have to do, then, is wait ^_^