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Re: Norway: MP's daughter commit suicide after $ci personality test
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This is a horrible story, and we need to show presence - as soon as possible. Cant let this one slip by as a freak accident. This particular case happened to get into the media spotlight because she was the daughter of a high ranking politician. Who knows how many other cases like this are out there with less exposure that never get published or linked to CoS?
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Re: Norway: MP's daughter commit suicide after $ci personality test
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This is seriously pissing me off...
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#43 (link to here) |
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Re: Norway: MP's daughter commit suicide after $ci personality test
Exlons, what would a -100 mean in the test? Would would the tester say to the subject then? What pressure? This needs to be got out there!
They didn't just hand her the results and walk off, they put her under pressure, enough pressure to make her distressed enough to kill herself. And Norwegian anons, I'd be careful about protesting with her name/picture. Not sure what the sensitive thing to do here would be.. thoughts?
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#44 (link to here) |
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Re: Norway: MP's daughter commit suicide after $ci personality test
Another demonstration of this abomination of an organisation.
Another heartless predator of the wallets. Needs white roses at her funeral (Mourn not picket please), getting in touch with MP for the data force and; picketing to OUT the LIES that the Norway Org is spewing (as per tech I might add) *fume* |
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Re: Norway: MP's daughter commit suicide after $ci personality test
Ok, I've tranlated the two articles from VG, one which MongoLloyd missed, but is important in the context.
Committed suicide after test from Scientologists Top member of SV* Olav Gunnar Ballo, lost his daughter (20) Nice/Oslo (VG) About two weeks ago Kaja Bordevich Ballo (20) commited suicide – only a few hours after she had received crushing results on a personality test run by the Church of Scientology. Took Scientology-test; Kaja Bordevich Ballo (20) had gone through a personality test run by the Churhc of Scientology in Nice. On the very same day she took her own life. Photo: PRIVATE. At the moment the police in the southern French town of Nice – where Kaja was a student at the university in Nice in Sophia Antiplois – the controversial church’s involvement in the case. Kajas dad is the marked politician Olav Gunnar Ballo (SV), many years as an MP, vice president in Odelstinget** and unafraid spokesperson for health politics in his political party. Married to Ballo, and being Kajas step mother, is Heidi Sørensen (SV). Sørensen is a former leader of the Nature Preservation Society and MP, now government secretary in the Department of Environment Protection. The information VG brings to light today, is printed in dialouge and understanding with Ballo himself, and the rest of Kajas family. -The information about the Scientology test is known through the preists speech in the burial. This I can confirm. Men because of the closeness in time to the death, I do not wish to go into details, and comment other simplicities now, says Olav Gunnar Ballo to VG. Kaja died the 28th of March, and was buried in Grefsen church last Friday. A large group of friends followed her to the grave. Many were also persent at a memorial service at Stortinget*** the same afternoon. Personality Test According to information VG has been given, the connection to Scientology was done after the family found a filled personality test and Church of Scientology’s analysis of what they claim is her personality, in Kajas 17sq.m. large dorm after her death. READ ALSO: - She sought us out The test has a date and time attached: It was taken the same day as her death. The Curch of Scientology has locales only a few meters away the dormitory where Kaja lived. Henrik Möinichen (19), a uni friend of Kaja, tells VG that he walked with Kaja to the univeristy and lectures at 9am Friday the 28th of March. -As far as I could tell she was completely normal. She attended lecture as usual, talked and was happy, say Möinichen to VG. When the lecturing in French ended for foreigners at 11am, Henrik went to the airport in Nice to meet his dad. Henrik lives in the dorm room next to Kaja. The last thing he heard, was the she had gone to the room around 3-4 pm. The rest of the day he was outside of the dormitory with his dad. Based on what VG knows no other friends or acquaintances were in contact with the 20-year old between the time of the test, and the time when she was found dead. Vulnerable issues -The test was found in her home by the family. After she was done at university that day I have been told that she went to buy some clothes. This is when she supposedly got in contact with the Curch of Scientology, says Möinichen. Based on what VG has been told Kaja got an extremely bad result on the test. -I have a feeling that something must have happened suddenly, that they have hit a vulnerable issue. Personally I am of the opinion that Kaja would have been alive today if she didn’t have contact with the Scientologists. I had the impression that she was doing well in Nice. She often spoke about the future and her plans after university, says Möinichen. *SV, left wing Norwegian Political Party **Odelstinget, comparable to the House of Lords, but with elected representatives ***Stortinget, parliament -She sought us out Nice (VG) The Church of Scientology in Nice confirms that Kaja Bordevich Ballo (20) went to the church. A female staff member for the Church of Scientology in Nice says to VG that Ballo went to the church once before she died. -The way I have understood the situation she found a commercial for our personality tests on the street and came here afterwards to get the result. Beyond this she has nothing to do with the church, says the woman who does not wish to be named. READ ALSO: Committed Suicide after test from Scientologists She says to Vg that the meeting was more like a short talk than any form of counselling. The Church of Scientology is located in ordinary office locales in the centre of the popular beach town. The congregation has about 100 members and are hosts for about three weddings between members every year. Last summer the Daily Telegraph wrote that the congregation was supposed to hold the wedding for Australias richest man, James Packer, with celebrities like Tom Cruise and John Travolta amongst the guests. Ordered book In the windows the church society are advertising the free stress test. A group of boys comes in to take the test, but the woman asks the three to come back the next day. -When she came here, she talked to a colleague of mine. We recommended her a self help book. Because we only had it in French, we agreed to order it for her, and that she should come back and pick it up later. We still have not received the book, so she has not gotten to read it. The woman says that the meeting was short. She does not understand how it could have affected the young girl’s further choices. -The test she took is available online, but you have to show up personally to get the results. The results are neither positive nor negative; it is more of a test to give you insight into your own personality. According to the woman the police have not been in contact with the church as a part of their investigation of the case. |
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Re: Norway: MP's daughter commit suicide after $ci personality test
Funeral has already been held - that was where the news broke.
Culturally, Norway is very sensitive about suicides. It is very rare that the news gets out that a death was a suicide. So, yes, be VERY careful about using her name and image. |
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Re: Norway: MP's daughter commit suicide after $ci personality test
We absolutely have to get the message out there that the test is ALWAYS negative, and that it is in fact DESIGNED to have this kind of effect on people in order to draw them into Scientology.
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Re: Norway: MP's daughter commit suicide after $ci personality test
for these sorts of things we need a picture of the anon suit with a headless incredible hulk bursting out of it.
that's exactly how I feel at the moment. |
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Re: Norway: MP's daughter commit suicide after $ci personality test
"Finding a Ruin" explained by Andrea Catt, former Scientology recruiter:
"You talk to him about the things which are 'ruining' his life. You basically make the person feel really, really bad about the condition they are in. You take their problems and you magnify them. You look at how that is going to affect them in the future. You get the person into a state where they feel that their future is nothing unless they do something. Then you tell them that the only thing they can do is Scientology." Starts at 5:40 This is the technique that will have been used on Kaja.
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The fact that the stupid test is online or that she had to come down to their "store" get her results does nothing to change the fact that the Co$'s deliberately depressing psycho-babble bullshit test is designed to make you feel bad about yourself. Hell, it's not even a test if the results have been pre-established before you read the first question. It's one thing to read about the historic precidents of this sort of thing, but for me it's something disgustingly horrifying to "see" this cult's horrible manipulations killing people as I'm trying to warn people around me that they're not just a "wacky religion." |
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Location: Internet
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Re: Norway: MP's daughter commit suicide after $ci personality test
I think when Norwegian anons express their condolences they should respectfully ask if the family would be comfortable with them using her image and name in their anti-cult protest.
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Re: Norway/France: MP's daughter commit suicide after $ci personality test
Makes me so fucking mad how many suicides Scientology has caused :S
I have a Norweigen friend, she lives in Oslo, i'll point her in the direction of this, see if maybe she'll see why i protest |
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