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Location: Burbank, CA
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In the 1990's the "Church of Scientology" <spit> asked me to do them a
favor, so they said. Basically it evolved into my opening up Phony accounts that my auditor, Bill YAUDE, told me were being used, "To Handle the Critics". This was ALL "TOTALLY TOP SECRET Tory. You cannot tell ANY Executives, Auditors, DM, Heber, RTC, Ethics officers or ANY Public, including my own husband". When Yaude showed me this deal I had to sign, I remember well looking at him and saying, "This sounds like Guardian's Office Crap" (Where 11 Scientologists went to jail). He looked at me and said, "Tory, LOOK at me! It's me, your friend and auditor---would *I* do anything wrong?" Honestly, then, I couldn't imagine him doing anything bad---so I said, "ok" I will. They were always to be opened with money orders, so there could be NO trace to C of S. I had to ALWAYS use a phone card---so no one could trace this. They wouldn't tell me what they were used for, but he promised me it was "All legal-trust me". I did. At first Scientology was flying me to different cities, to open up phony accounts. Then they realized we could use the phone, so they'd give us (this girl and I) phone books from different areas. The plan was to take *a* name from the area (or make one up)---mainly get an address that was local, and a different phone number. Then call an ISP and insist "We need to open up an account TODAY as our father is moving there, he's very sick and we must be able to communicate with him" or whatever we had to say, so they'd say, "OK". We'd get the e-mail set up and a password, and send them the money order---and pass it onto OSA___Part of Scientology. They'd then use it to spam ARS--a newsgroup many X-Scientologists and critics were talking on. (That part I didn't know--as Yaude told me, "I won't tell you what we're doing with them, so then IF you have to get deposed, you can honestly say, "I don't know"). Also, Scientology terrorizes their members into NOT looking on the Net, especially back then, when it was rather new. 2 people went "insane" and Yaude told me, "They were reading the Net, Tory". Ok, years later I spoke to both. One was drugged and reverse audited ---driving her insane. She had also worked for OSA< and then woke up---so they tried to shut her up. Didn't work, her story is on Operation Clambake - The Inner Secrets Of Scientology "Catherine's story". (Yaude had also removed the Net Nanny from my computer, explaining how it was there to "help keep the bad stuff off your lines") Ok, I think it was when I was ordered to "Not use your own name on the phone, and never call us by our names". Bill was I think "Jack" and Gavino (The Sea Org criminal actually running to deal, no doubt via Davey boy out of Gold) was something else. I finally went on the net and LOOKED on ARS and sure enough, there were thousands of food recepies. In between that, were people saying, "Those aren't my words! Scientology is changing what I said!" I'll never forget sitting there stunned. OH MY GAWD. SCIENTOLOGY IS USING ME TO STOP FREE SPEECH. And I CAN NO LONGER TRUST MY AUDITOR--the person I trusted the most. I'd signed something that I'd "Never ever tell ANYONE" about this Top Secret project---so I knew I was on my own. So I called up Bill and just said, "Bill---I have to get back to working". He said, 'Ok, fine---just come on over, and fill us in on everything at this apt in Glendale". It sounded fine, so I headed over that night. I walked into a dark----odd feeling room. It was ALL Men, all 'OT's" I knew. I sat down, and suddenly the door smashed open, and in flew Gavino, this skinny, Nazi like guy, yelling: I TOLD YOU ABOUT HER!! I TOLD YOU!!! Shocked, I looked at Bill (my then best friend and auditor) and said, "Told you WHAT???) At the time I was still truly a "True believer" and although MANY things had proven to be BULLSHIT_----including this, *I* still didn't fully get how bad Scientology was. After about an hour of they grilling me, yelling at me---I finally ran out, with Bill running after me. Something snapped that night. My own personal Truman Show really cracked in half, right then. Only there was no light----for me to see---and that took about 6 more months for me to FULLY SEE AND FACE who these mobsters really are. I Left Scientology, forever, and the main reason I left was over Free speech and they trying to stop it. Sure, there were many other things wrong with Scientology---many I've written about. However this issue was THE Thing that pushed me over the edge. Ironic that now, today, they get my youtube site suspended. But Know this: *I* TORY CHRISTMAN Was sent out BY the organization known as the church of Scientology---to OPEN UP THE PHONY ACCOUNTS THAT WERE USED TO STOP FREE SPEECH. So for me, there's no: "Oh that wasn't OSA!" FUCK THAT____I KNOW DAMNED WELL IT'S OSA! And I write this to you all for this reason: Granted, They've managed to get my ToryMagoo44 Youtube site suspended. But you have to know THEY (OSA) have a program to SHUT DOWN ****EVERY*** Single Critic of Scientology. (Just so you get how covert they are.........when I finally saw those food recopies, I called up Bill. I said, "Isn't it going to be obvious that these are made by C of S/OSA? He said to me: "No, we've covered that! We're spamming tons of OTHER newsgroups, too, so they won't know it's us"). That's deep---------very deep, and scary too, when you get just how far they will go to "Get the job done". So don't call Youtube because of me. I'm fine, and I'll be fine, one way or the other. But CALL YOUTUBE because ***IF** Scientology can get away with this, they shall copy it over and over with person after person. This isn't a Tory issue. This IS A FREE SPEECH issue! And it's an issue...............for every single person who cares about Free Speech, and doesn't want to live under the rulings/"Ethics Codes" BULLSHIT LIES of Scientology. -- Tory/Magoo~Dancing in the moonlight~ ![]() In Scientology for 30 years, out happily for 7 years! X-Sea Org, X-Staff, X-OT 7, X-Class 4 auditor, X-OSA Volunteer after 20 years (Mostly in PR)X-Executive Director of SPL to handle media X-Top Secret OSA Int Internet Mafia, Until I realized what they were really doing and soon after left C of S forever. For thinking and speaking my mind, Scientology declared me a "Suppressive Person" (SP 6 ^Cumulative Cluster :) & Expelled me from The Church of $cientology :) Free at LAST! Operation Clambake - The Inner Secrets Of Scientology (What Scientology Doesn't want you to know) XENU TV - Exposing Scientology Through Streaming Video (Excellent videos) Tory / Magoo and Scientology: 30 Years Before I Woke Up (My writings about Scientology from ARS) Ex-member of Scientology describes the Scientology's plan to spam the internet (Top Secret Int Mafia) or Type in Scientology in Google (Read, Look, Listen, Make up your ~own~Mind) magoo44@charter.net Burbank, CA (818) 588-3044 "They, who give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin Franklin |
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Proud SP
Location: Internet
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bump, we applaud you Tory. I wrote a post referring to the OT Panel that you did in 2000.
Do you and Mark and others like Jason etc, have something similar planned? I say do it. The more voices within that get interviews etc, now that we are forcing the world to take a closer look at scientology the better. We need to make everyone aware to take a critical look at this organization. I'd like to see a new version of the OT Panel, especially now with Jenna and Jason and You and Tommy etc. Like the parties you all have but organized on video for all to watch. Keep on being strong Tory. You are AMAZING. I applaud you!! :D |
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Location: Burbank, CA
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Thank you SO much!
You know it's funny you mentioned that, as recently a few of us, ((Jason, BFG, and John and BFG's wife--all from Int) were together, and yeah.........I was thinking, "We need to do a new "OT's Speaking Freely" or if they're not OT---Just "Ex-Scientologists speaking freely in 2008!" Glad you mentioned it...we'll see what we can do. My best ![]() Magoo~~~ |
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ROCK This!
Location: Las Vegas, Baby!
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24 Karet balls!
I have a tremendous ammount of respect for you. Thank you for opening the eyes of so many ignorant people. /all goose-pimply! |
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Not Angry
Location: Right outside your door
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Tory, do you have backups of your videos? If so, just reupload them under a new account.
If you don't want to do this, please archive them all together and upload to a free server such as mediafire or megaupload and we can download them all and reupload them. Trying to remove free speech from the internet is like trying to remove piss from a pool. And its impossible if someone keeps pissing.
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Proud SP
Location: Internet
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See now i'm excited and hope a new version does come to fruition:D
Perhaps (and this may be a ballsy move) but if it is organized to have the really big rally at the big main sites, like Clearwater, LA etc, where everyone flies from all over to those main spots...perhaps you all have an open discussion there for all to see and have it mic'd and video tapped. Or just a private session. I just want to here everyones current thoughts, now with Anon in the picture :D Thanks for being an inspiration, and trust me, sharing your story about the kids who have died, people sharing their disconnection, I for one wont rest until there is justice. Thanks for being an inspiration :) I truly wish all of you who have suffered happiness, and I hope more people see the light and find freedom...in speech, to love their families again (well at least be able to see and speak with them again, im sure everyone still loves each other) and for David M. to be exposed for the slimely p.o.s. that he is! Freedom in TRUTH! |
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Tory,
While I would love to say that you are 100% right on thinking it's OSA that got your account suspended, I am not entirely sure that it is true. I spend a ridiculous amount of time online and it seems to me that there are people out there that just like to fuck with people cause they can. Like anonymous, they do it for the lulz, the reaction. It's their version of fun, tearing people down. It's sad but true. When this forum first opened, there were all kinds of things posted that this collective didn't agree with, and a url would be posted and we would flag the shit out of it, to get the account suspended. Did we do what we thought was right? Of course. We would do it to prevent false information from spreading about anonymous. At some point we have to expect that will be some sort of back lash. As a collective, there are some people who will just attack for the sake of attacking. Anonymity is something that many people use to do bad things as well as good. We will get your account reinstated, but honestly I wouldn't be at all surprised if it's a bunch of anti-anons being pissed at the moralfags and taking it out on you. Bottom line, whoever did this, is going to be sorry, cause they poked a bee hive when they went after you, so even if it wasn't OSA.. OSA will be the ones paying for it in the long run. Just my .02 AC2 |
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Were there criminal investigations concerning the organized spam campaign? this sounds like identity theft, which surely is illegal? |
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Location: Undisclosed
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Scientology is above the law in USA/Canada How many criminal complaints have gone unattended/un-investigated/overturned with regards to CoS? CoS has the upper echelons of modern society in its hands, esp in California |
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Not that this really affects our counter-tactics, but this is interesting to know. |
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Still, I'm curious what it was like in this case, if there was a criminal investigation regarding identity theft and if so what were the results? |
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The question is: Why only Tory ? Why not Mark Bunker too ?
Is this an attempt to distract us from the Jason Beghe interview ?
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Internet Ninja
Location: Undisclosed
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it is so spy
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