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Old 04-19-2008, 12:58 AM   #41 (link to here)
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Re: Amsterdam, Netherlands

Sorry, beste noorderburen.

I'm misinformed and it seems that the european central church in belgium is still open, so I will continue our activities in Belgium.
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Old 04-19-2008, 01:57 AM   #42 (link to here)
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Edit: Dank je! Email adres ontvangen.

Hey guys, does anyone how how I can contact Jeta? If so, please PM me. Jeta knows a lot about getting refunds from the cult and there's a thread I would like his view upon:

Operation Refund

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Old 04-19-2008, 04:55 AM   #43 (link to here)
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Driewerf hoera voor onze zuider-buren! :D

Anyways, I finished a first draft of a bi-lingual A4 folding flyer:

Front and back page, the right hand side is the front after folding.
Click the image to open in full size.

The inside pages:
Click the image to open in full size.

Does the herd of cats agree?
Look at it and tell me what the hive mind feels should change.
That is fantastic! A great, clear flier. I'm gonna print some of those, definitely!

after careful searching I found a few mistakes/strange language:

Typos:
vernieteging, in the dutch human rights committee part
"then" in the CCHR part, should be "than"
Fair game part (dutch): "mw Cooper" Not sure, but shouldn't this be mv. ?
Fair game part (english) "menral institute" should be "mental"
Whyaretheydead part (dutch, Elli Perkins): schyzofrene, should be schizofrene.
Whyaretheydead part (dutch, Elli Perkins): "vitamine kuur" should be "vitaminekuur"
Whyaretheydead part (dutch, mark schaatsbergen): zelfdmoord, should be zelfmoord
Whyaretheydead part (dutch, last ones): "vitamine kuur" should be vitaminekuur
Whyaretheydead part (english, Josephus): allready, should be already
Whyaretheydead part (english, mark): "as ex-member" should be "as an ex-member"
Whyaretheydead part (english, mark): "fair Game" should be "Fair Game"
Whyaretheydead part (english, mark): "scientology will not allow" should be "scientology does not allow"
Whyaretheydead part (english, mark): then should be than

Changes:
"this organisation has the stated goal of exposing the crimes of psychiatry" This sounds a little weird, try something like this organisation tries to expose the "crimes" of psychiatry (don't forget the apostrophes).
"The more people know ththey lessey will fall for the trap of scientology". try: "If more people know then less people will fall for the trap of scientology"
"Hoe meer mensen het weten hoe minder in de val van scientology kunnen trappen" try: "Als meer mensen weten van de misdaden van Scientology des te minder kunnen ook in de van van scientolog trappen" Or something like that.
Fair Game quote: Maybe make it clearer that L. Ron Hubbard is the founder of the Co$?
Maybe the links in the Fair Game part are a little long...
"17 dagen later was ze dood, uitgemergeld, uitgehongerd en met honderden kleine kakkerlakbeten op haar lichaam" try: "17 dagen later was ze dood, uitgemergeld, uitgehongerd en had ze honderden kleine kakkerlakbeten op haar lichaam"
"17 days later she is dead, dehydrated, starved and hundreds of cockroach bites on her body" try: "17 days later she is dead, dehydrated, starved to the bone and has hundreds of cockroach bites on her body"
"the official stance is that he died of drowning. however his head was not submerged" try: "Scientlogy says that he died by drowning, his head was not submerged however"
"Had her son been medicated according to normal medical practices (...)" try: "If her son had taken the medicine prescribed by the doctor (...)"

Still, this is an amazing flier, very, very well done.

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Old 04-19-2008, 08:19 AM   #44 (link to here)
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Old 04-19-2008, 10:44 AM   #45 (link to here)
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Hi this newfaq will be there to :)

I was wondering if we could get Peter R. de Vries on board and or clean the Google results for Jetta. Here are two threads about this:
Project Frost
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Old 04-19-2008, 11:10 AM   #46 (link to here)
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Just some idea's I'm tossing in;
Bring some cake and host a few games, like a quiz;
"attack, attack, never defend"
Was this said by;
a. Jesus
b. Mohamed
c. L Ron Hubbard

just to show some nice fair game quotes in a humourus way, winning person takes home the cake, maybe exclude anon to make it more fair for the public (or have 2 prizes)
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Old 04-19-2008, 01:29 PM   #47 (link to here)
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Old 04-19-2008, 11:05 PM   #48 (link to here)
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Much win in this picture
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Old 04-20-2008, 06:11 AM   #49 (link to here)
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A nice dutchfag went over the text version of the flyer (via pm's) and corrected my horrid spelling skills :)

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Typos:
fixed, thanks :)
Fair game part (dutch): "mw Cooper" Not sure, but shouldn't this be mv. ?
I'm not sure either, both forms commonly appear. I'll stick with mw

Changes:
"this organisation has the stated goal of exposing the crimes of psychiatry" This sounds a little weird, try something like this organisation tries to expose the "crimes" of psychiatry (don't forget the apostrophes).
Added the apostrophes.
Stated goals refers to the fact that this goal is actually in their mission statement.
also I felt it sounded nice and formal.
Any other Anon's have thoughts on this? majority opinion decides the final sentence


"The more people know ththey lessey will fall for the trap of scientology". try: "If more people know then less people will fall for the trap of scientology"
"Hoe meer mensen het weten hoe minder in de val van scientology kunnen trappen" try: "Als meer mensen weten van de misdaden van Scientology des te minder kunnen ook in de van van scientolog trappen" Or something like that.
The anon that corrected me through PM's suggested "The more people know, the less will fall for the trap that is Scientology." I think that suggestion beats both of our idea's
I'd rather leaving the dutch bit as is, changing it to your suggestion would make it a line longer and thusly messing up the layout, I kinda like that the dutch and english collumns match up.
Offcourse I will yield to majority opinion


Fair Game quote: Maybe make it clearer that L. Ron Hubbard is the founder of the Co$?
Maybe the links in the Fair Game part are a little long...
Added the word Scientology below the word founder.
The links, yeah they are a bit long. at the time I was making it I felt it was better then saying "google operation freakout" or "google karin spaink", especially for Karin I felt it was better as the top link is her "I write therefore I am" page, I fear people would give up searching to fast.
More opinions from the herd of cats please :)


"17 dagen later was ze dood, uitgemergeld, uitgehongerd en met honderden kleine kakkerlakbeten op haar lichaam" try: "17 dagen later was ze dood, uitgemergeld, uitgehongerd en had ze honderden kleine kakkerlakbeten op haar lichaam"
"17 days later she is dead, dehydrated, starved and hundreds of cockroach bites on her body" try: "17 days later she is dead, dehydrated, starved to the bone and has hundreds of cockroach bites on her body"
Yep, is better, changed it.

"the official stance is that he died of drowning. however his head was not submerged" try: "Scientlogy says that he died by drowning, his head was not submerged however"
"Had her son been medicated according to normal medical practices (...)" try: "If her son had taken the medicine prescribed by the doctor (...)"
changed it
Added some stuff in bold to your quote.
Thank you for the suggestions :)
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Old 04-20-2008, 08:08 AM   #50 (link to here)
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Ok, I'm one of the anons focussed on translations to Dutch etc.
Though I concentrate mostly on spelling and grammar. (Also in English)
I would very much like to check the entire test on typo's and grammar mistakes before you start spreading the final version.
I still see errors in the corrections you just made and I'd just like to check the entire modified text when it's ready. Please? :(

Yours truly,
Henk de Vries
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Old 04-20-2008, 11:28 AM   #51 (link to here)
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Just once more for epic lulz
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Old 04-21-2008, 01:00 AM   #52 (link to here)
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FLYERS: It was a love from first sight for me and the 3fold found here- Why Am I Wearing This Mask?, Ver. 2.0 If anyone can convert it to dutch, it woud be awsome.
Dibs! I'll translate that. I'll contact the original creator for the source file.
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Old 04-21-2008, 03:20 AM   #53 (link to here)
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For the record, I am working on making this

http://www.seebs.net/images/avs_trifold.pdf

Into a bilingual, slightly more NL/EU specific flyer.
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Old 04-21-2008, 05:43 AM   #54 (link to here)
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Ok, I'm one of the anons focussed on translations to Dutch etc.
Though I concentrate mostly on spelling and grammar. (Also in English)
I would very much like to check the entire test on typo's and grammar mistakes before you start spreading the final version.
I still see errors in the corrections you just made and I'd just like to check the entire modified text when it's ready. Please? :(

Yours truly,
Henk de Vries
ok, here it comes.
possibly spread over multiple post as there may be a character limit on enturb posts (there is on pm's)
I'd like to start printing on wednesday at the latest as I can only print 300 a day or so and cannot print every day, need to make sure my employer doesn't notice I am using office supplies for a good cause.

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Dit is hoe Scientology met critici omgaat.
Zij noemen dit beleid:
Fair Game
Critici en ex-leden van scientology krijgen van Scientology het label “SP”.
(SP betekent Suppressive Person, Onderdrukkend Persoon in het Nederlands)

Scientology beschouwt SP’s als de meest kwaadaardige personen op de wereld en voelt zich daarom gerechtigd deze mensen op welke manier dan ook te laten zwijgen.

De Journaliste Paulette Cooper bracht in 1971 het boek “The scandal of Scientology” op de markt. Scientology besloot onmiddelijk om haar aan te pakken, zij werd het slachtoffer van “Operation Freakout”.
Dit was een plan van Scientology om de Journaliste in de gevangenis of een gesticht te laten opsluiten. Voor meer info over “Fair Game” tegen mw Cooper lees:
Operation Freakout - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Ook de Nederlandse schrijfster Karin Spaink is het slachtoffer van “Fair Game” geworden.Scientology tegen Karin Spaink - Wikipedia
Fishman Affidavit - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Daarom dragen wij maskers.
Wij zijn critici van Scientology en zijn daarom genoodzaakt onze identiteit te beschermen.
Doen we dit niet dan worden wij de volgende slachtoffers van het “Fair Game” beleid.

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This is how Scientology deals with critics.
They call this policy:
Fair Game
Critics and ex-members of Scientology are
labeled by Scientology as “SP”.
(SP stands for Suppressive Person,
a person who oppresses Scientology)

Scientology considers SP’s to be the most evil people on the world, they therefore feel
justified to silence these people by any means they deem necessary.

In 1971 journalist Paulette Cooper published the book “The scandal of Scientology”.
Scientology immediately decided to handle her, she became the victim of a plan known as “Operation Freakout”.
This was a scheme to get the journalist locked away in prison or a mental institute.
For more information about “Fair Game” against ms Cooper please read:
Operation Freakout - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Dutch writer Karin Spaink also became the victim of Scientology’s “Fair Game” policy
Karin Spaink - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Fishman Affidavit - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This is why we wear masks.
We are critics of Scientology and as such we are forced to protect our identities.
if we don’t, we will become the next victims of the “Fair Game” policy.
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Lisa McPherson.
In 1995 was deze jonge vrouw betrokken bij een kleinschalig auto ongeluk. Ze heeft geen verwondingen opgelopen, maar gedraagt zich verward. Het ziekenhuis wil haar een aantal dagen houden voor observatie.
Scientology-leden halen haar uit het ziekenhuis en nemen haar mee naar het Fort Harrison hotel voor "rust en ontspanning". 17 dagen later was ze dood: uitgemergeld, uitgehongerd en had ze honderden
kleine kakkerlakbeten op haar lichaam.

Josephus Havenith.
Josephus was een Nederlander die in München muziekles gaf. Op 25 februari 1980 was hij al twee maanden in het Fort Harrison hotel voor Scientology-"therapie".
Die ochtend werd hij dood in het bad van zijn hotelkamer aangetroffen. Hij was levend gekookt.
Volgens Scientology is hij door verdrinking gestorven...
zijn hoofd was echter niet onder water.

Flo Barnett.
De schoonmoeder van David Miscavige, de leider van Scientology. Zij had kritiek op haar schoonzoon en op hoe hij leiding gaf aan Scientology.
In 1985 pleegde zij "zelfmoord" door "zichzelf" met een geweer drie keer in de borst en eenmaal in het hoofd te schieten.

Elli Perkins.
Elli kwam op 13 maart 2003 om het leven door meer dan 70 messteken, vermoord door haar schizofrene zoon. Scientology verbied hun leden om psychiatrische
medicijnen te gebruiken. Elli probeerde haar zoon te genezen op de door Scientology voorgeschreven wijze: een vitaminekuur.
Als haar zoon normale medicijnen had gekregen voor zijn ziekte, was Elli nu nog in leven geweest.

Mark Schaatsbergen.
Mark verliet in 1988 de sekte Scientology. Als ex-lid werd hij daardoor onmiddelijk het slachtoffer van "Fair game". Zijn vader en zuster, die nog steeds lid zijn, verbraken de band met hem in navolging van Scientology's "Disconnection"-beleid.
Begin juli 1998 werd de druk van "Fair Game" te groot.
Mark pleegde zelfmoord.

Jeroen de Bruijn(25) & Marjan Witte(40)
Beide overleden aan onbehandelde kanker.
Scientology staat niet toe dat iemand een andere behandeling gebruikt dan Scientology’s vitaminekuur.

Dit is slechts een kleine greep uit de enorme hoeveelheid slachtoffers van Scientology.
Hoeveel moeten er nog sterven?

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Lisa McPherson.
In 1995 this young woman was involved in a minor car accident. She suffered no major injuries but behaves
in a confused manner. The hospital staff wishes to keep her for observation but Scientology decides otherwise. Scientology members check her out of the hospital and take her to the Fort Harrison hotel for "rest and relaxation". 17 days later she is dead: dehydrated, starved to the bone, and found with hundreds of cockroach bites on her body.

Josephus Havenith.
Josephus was a Dutch man living in Munich where he taught music. On February 25th 1980 he had already been in the Fort Harrison hotel for two months for Scientology "therapy". That morning he was found dead in his hotel room bathtub, boiled alive.
Scientology says that he died by drowning....
but his head was not submerged.

Flo Barnett.
The mother-in-law of David Miscaviage, the leader of Scientology. She was critical of her son-in-law and how he ran Scientology.
In 1985 she commited “suicide” by “shooting herself” in the chest three times and once in the head with a large rifle.

Elli Perkins.
Elli died on the 13th of March 2003 from more then 70 stab wounds, killed by her schizophrenic son.
Scientology prohibits their members from taking
psychiatric medication. Elli tried treating her son
using the method prescribed by Scientology:
a vitamin regiment.
If her son had taken medication prescribed by a doctor Elli might have still been alive today.

Mark Schaatsbergen.
Mark left Scientology in 1988. As an ex-member, he
immediately became victim of the "Fair Game policy".
His father and sister, who are still members, broke all bonds with him in accordance with Scientology's "Disconnection" policy. In July of 1998 the pressure of "Fair Game" on Mark became to much to handle.
Mark commited suicide.

Jeroen de Bruijn(25) & Marjan Witte(40)
Both died of untreated cancer.
Scientology does not allow it’s members to use any other treatment than Scientology’s vitamin regiment.

This is just a small sample of the massive amount of scientology’s fatal victims.
How many more must die?
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Frontorganisaties

Scientology maakt gebruik van vele front-
organisaties om hun recruteringsaktiviteiten te verbergen. De frontorganisaties ontkennen elke betrokkenheid bij Scientology.

Narconon.
Zogenaamd een afkick center. de behandelmethoden van dit “afkick centrum” zijn echter precies gelijk aan de “techniek” van Scientology en kan schadelijke tot dodelijk gevolgen hebben voor hun patienten.

Comité voor de rechten van de mens.
Deze organisatie heeft zichzelf ten doel gesteld de "misdaden" van de psychiatrie aan het licht te brengen. Ze beweren o.a dat de psychiatrie de Holocaust heeft veroorzaakt. Scientology beschouwt psychiatrie als hun groostse vijand. Hun doel is de volledige vernietiging van psychiatrie.

Scientology heeft meer front organisaties
Dan wij in deze flyer kunnen laten zien.
Ga online, onderzoek het zelf.

Anonymous beschouwt Scientology als zeer gevaarlijk.
Onderzoek het gevaar zelf en vertel het uw vrienden. Hoe meer mensen het weten hoe minder in de val van Scientology trappen.

Kennis is gratis.
Gebruik het, verspreid het.

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Front organisations

Scientology uses many front organisations to hide their recruitment efforts. The Front organisations deny any involvement with Scientology.

Narconon.
A so-called rehab center. The treatment
methods used by this “rehab center” are exactly the same as the “technology” of Scientology and can have damaging or even deadly results for their patients.

Citizens Commission on Human Rights.
this organisation has the stated goal of
exposing the “crimes” of psychiatry. Amongst other things they claim psychiatry is
responsible for the Holocaust.
Scientology considers psychiatry to be their greatest enemy, their goal is to completely eliminate psychiatry.

Scientology has more front organisations than we can show you in this flyer.
Go online, investigate for yourself.

Anonymous considers Scientology to be extremely dangerous.
Research the danger for yourself and tell all your friends. The more people know, the less will fall for the trap that is Scientology.

Knowledge is free.
Use it, spread it.
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Old 04-21-2008, 01:30 PM   #55 (link to here)
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How about making a "registrar booth" (including prices of mandatory donations) next to an auditing session by anon?
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