Amsterdam, Netherlands

If we prove with pix that they didn't actually have a demonstration at all, would that mean something re: further protest applications?

I realy dont know if its true or not, but if what we learned in school is true, the ombudsman shoud be our most valued ally on our dealings with the state... The only thing is, it woud probably be essential to get namefaged in order for him to take us sereolsy.

Originally Posted by ANONetherlands

Stick to protesting at the org. Flyering at another demonstration is a bit obnoxious, as those people already have their priorities set and could possibly get annoyed at us. We probably won't get permission from the police to flyer in the neighbourhood of the Scilon manifestation. Send a few non-masked anons to check it out, but leave them be otherwise. Mini-raids have shown to be a more effective way of enturbulating the Scilons.

Maybe even better: sending anons out in turns pretending to be interested members of the public to keep them occupied.

^^ this
Let them have their own demonstration. It is a bit disrespectful to go there to protest for something else, isn't it?
and actually, their issue is waay more serious and important then CoS. (really)

Originally Posted by Puddlewhite

I realy dont know if its true or not, but if what we learned in school is true, the ombudsman shoud be our most valued ally on our dealings with the state... The only thing is, it woud probably be essential to get namefaged in order for him to take us sereolsy.

We have a couple of Old Guard supporters for the namefagging part . .

i have no problem with namefagging, as long as it is not directly to the scifags.

as for the evidence, several of us have zoom lenzes, and im pretty sure i can make some nics pics discretely.
and the shot you need for this is just a good overview with the whole thing in frame
so u wouldnt have to come close anyways.

so i see no problem getting the evidence we would need for this.
so why not give it a shot...

. . . Party Hard . . .

Originally Posted by moose

^^ this
Let them have their own demonstration. It is a bit disrespectful to go there to protest for something else, isn't it?
and actually, their issue is waay more serious and important then CoS. (really)

Is it more important? Yes. Do they have a chance of actually influensing the conflict in any way? Hell no.
If their protest is peasefull like ours, i dont see why it shoud be a problem for us to flyer. What we shoudnt do is pretend to be a part of their protest in order to look like we have major support.
What is more important than that thow, is that we find the scilons protest and have people there.

An idea just occurred to me, since the video with Anonymous getting an e-meter reading from Jan Schouten. Would it be an idea to have some trade-off with him?

Meaning: You'll read Dianetics (right there, on the spot) and you get him to read Bare Faced Messiah, or Piece of Blue Sky, or OTIII. Anything they can't. And ask them why they won't do it.
Dunno if it can be done (little time) or if it is a good idea. Just shooting from the hip.

Originally Posted by Puddlewhite

If their protest is peasefull like ours, i dont see why it shoud be a problem for us to flyer.

I do. first of all there is no guarantee that it will be peacefull. actually, I don't think it will be. They are fcking serious (and should be).

Handing out your flyers at their protest is just confusing.
You're trying to take advantage of their efforts to bring a huge group of people together to protest. Personally, I would kick the hell out of someone who tried to do that at my protest... (or at least tell them to fck off!!)

Originally Posted by EastAnon

An idea just occurred to me, since the video with Anonymous getting an e-meter reading from Jan Schouten. Would it be an idea to have some trade-off with him?

Meaning: You'll read Dianetics (right there, on the spot) and you get him to read Bare Faced Messiah, or Piece of Blue Sky, or OTIII. Anything they can't. And ask them why they won't do it.
Dunno if it can be done (little time) or if it is a good idea. Just shooting from the hip.

Last time we saw Jan he was loudly screaming " FUCK YOU" at us. Not the best person to go for if you want to do an int trade.

Jan-Maarten, though, is worth a shot.

i agree we should not mix protests at any time.
if we must enter their terriroty for any reason we must do so 'under a white flag'
and not before talking it over with the cops first.

Originally Posted by flimbos

We have a message back from Amsterdam city councel..

Accoord kennisgeving

You might consider removing your address from the jpg.

BTW: GOOD LUCK!

time for me to get to the train - have fun all, let's make this another epic win.

Are there already pics from yesterdays protest?

yep
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